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Old 02-09-2009, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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President Signs Bill Lowering Salary of Secretary of State

December 19th, 2008
On December 19, President George W. Bush signed Senate Joint Resolution 46, which lowers the salary of the Secretary of State from $191,300 to $186,600. SJR 46 had been introduced in the U.S. Senate on December 10, and it passed unanimously that same day. The House passed it unanimously on December 12.

S. J. Res. 46 [110th]: A joint resolution ensuring that the compensation and other emoluments attached to the office of... (GovTrack.us)


Guess it must be another G. Bush plot.........since he signed it.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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"There is historic precedent for the director of the census, who works for the Commerce Secretary and the president, to work closely with White House senior management -- given the number of decisions that will have to be put before the president. We plan to return to that model in this administration." - WH spokesperson, lost the link
The Census director works within the pervue of the Commerce Department, which is under the authority of the Congress, not the President.

WHEN did Bush transfer the duties of the Census director DIRECTLY into and under control of the WH?
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:18 PM
 
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The Census director works within the pervue of the Commerce Department, which is under the authority of the Congress, not the President.

WHEN did Bush transfer the duties of the Census director DIRECTLY into and under control of the WH?
Is Congress going to deny that everyone in the US should be counted?

GWB - he didnt have to

I dont know why they chose Gregg for Commerce, but I guess they have their reasons.
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:31 PM
 
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The Census director works within the pervue of the Commerce Department, which is under the authority of the Congress, not the President.

WHEN did Bush transfer the duties of the Census director DIRECTLY into and under control of the WH?
My god. Sanrene have you been taking civics lessons from Sarah Palin? Commerce like every other federal department, comes under the authority of the executive branch of government. The Sectary of Commerce is a Presidential appointment, the appointee is a member of the president's cabinet and serves at the sole pleasure of the President.
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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My god. Sanrene have you been taking civics lessons from Sarah Palin? Commerce like every other federal department, comes under the authority of the executive branch of government. The Sectary of Commerce is a Presidential appointment, the appointee is a member of the president's cabinet and serves at the sole pleasure of the President.
The folks at freerepublic have gotten themselves into a tizzy over this, like it's some violation of the Constitution which always intended that the Department of Commerce be in charge of the census. Probably the same folks were complaining when the Air Force was split from the Army.
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:32 PM
 
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Probably the same folks were complaining when the Air Force was split from the Army.
Well I'm one of those.

Just a note for the historically and civics challenged. The U.S. Census Bureau wasn't established until 1903 (the same time the Department of Commerce was established) as a result, it missed the first 10 Constitutionally mandated censuses.
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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My god. Sanrene have you been taking civics lessons from Sarah Palin? Commerce like every other federal department, comes under the authority of the executive branch of government. The Sectary of Commerce is a Presidential appointment, the appointee is a member of the president's cabinet and serves at the sole pleasure of the President.
Have you ever bothered to read the Constitution?

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

Please, by all means, point it out.

U.S. Constitution - Article 2 Section 1 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

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but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.
He is allowed to appoint cabinet heads - he does not have the authority to regulate/oversee Commerce or the census.

Point that out to me, please.
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:48 PM
 
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I'm not so sure this one is a violation of the constitution, and honestly I'm not overly concerned with it. The one I'm waiting for is the 2nd ammendment. I am positive that there will be things done in the next 4 years that will violate the 2nd ammendment.
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:54 PM
 
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In regards to what?

I don't get the point of the post other then a headline.
Reprecentation, welfare,etc. Obama quietly did this over the weekend so no one would notice.

Emanuel is not going to "count" the people. He is going to just estimate and there will be no way to undo what he has done.
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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They will stack the deck for democratic districts. They will funnel money to their favorite and most supportive states.
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