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View Poll Results: Will the US collapse in the next four years?
No, it can't happen. The country is too strong. 49 27.37%
It could happen, but it's very unlikely 69 38.55%
Yes. But it would only be for a short time. 22 12.29%
Yes, and it would be all over. 39 21.79%
Voters: 179. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-13-2009, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I tend to disagree here. The country is more divided now, than ever. Even our recent election cycle showed that we are divided on religious, racial, gender, economic, political, pro/anti immigration, pro/anti everything else you can think of......
After 8 years of fascism, the majority of the American people want the union to stay strong. Those who dont typically are Bush supporters and were in favor of torture, unprovoked war, illegal spying and the revocation of Habeas Corpus.

All true Americans must readily identify this threat to the fabric of our society, and the republic as a whole, and remind ourselves that this pernicious threat is both viable and active across America and would enjoy the dissolution of 50 united states
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Old 02-13-2009, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Any country could "collapse," as the OP put it. But to put a four-year timetable on the United States sounds unlikely. If there is going to be a breakup of our republic, I think it's going to be a drawn-out affair. And not necessarily a pleasant one. But I don't think it's happening in the immediate future.
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Old 02-13-2009, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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russia did not collapse when they ran out of money. we wont either but russia and the USA will and are becoming disfunctional fast. no money honey.
Russia didn't collapse because there was a strong world economy and bankers willing to help them out. There is no entity on earth large enough to bail out the US.
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Old 02-13-2009, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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After 8 years of fascism, the majority of the American people want the union to stay strong. Those who dont typically are Bush supporters and were in favor of torture, unprovoked war, illegal spying and the revocation of Habeas Corpus.

All true Americans must readily identify this threat to the fabric of our society, and the republic as a whole, and remind ourselves that this pernicious threat is both viable and active across America and would enjoy the dissolution of 50 united states
This isn't about wanting something to happen or not. It's about what is likely to happen. Drastic tax cuts could restore the economy in a relatively short time, but it seems that there's little chance for this to happen.
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Old 02-13-2009, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Russia didn't collapse because there was a strong world economy and bankers willing to help them out. There is no entity on earth large enough to bail out the US.
The truth is we go, everyone goes. That is why no country is going to deliberately tank our economy. In this case we did it all by ourselves.

Two questions come from this. If someone, say China, keeps up from going, we still have an economy and function but owe everything to them. How does that effect us as a nation.

Or what happens if as China is already starting to tank themselves, what if nobody can rescue us?

Scary...
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Old 02-13-2009, 05:00 PM
 
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it wont collapse, the wealthy pigs who own this land will just keep us as zombies feeding their machine, they will do all they can to make sure we are zombies who dont think and make sure their profits are increasing
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Old 02-13-2009, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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This isn't about wanting something to happen or not. It's about what is likely to happen. Drastic tax cuts could restore the economy in a relatively short time, but it seems that there's little chance for this to happen.
Due to the money shortage, tax cuts would be ineffective. The sum total of outstanding obligations, accounts, and creditor's balance due are far larger than the circulating medium. That is one of the reasons why the "bail out bux" didn't filter back as loans. The banks desperately needed the bux to avert a run.

A mass migration out of money markets precipitated the first drain on the banks.

The only way new Federal Reserve Notes (dollar bills) are authorized is when Congress goes deeper into debt. (Yes, it is INSANE).
See: Title 12 USC Sec. 411.

And there's nothing we can do about the public debt because the 14th amendment won't allow it to be questioned - even when it is impossible to pay.
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Old 02-13-2009, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The truth is we go, everyone goes. That is why no country is going to deliberately tank our economy. In this case we did it all by ourselves.
No nation stays on top forever. Rome was top dog once. England was top dog once too. Our time is limited, we are debt heavy, we cost too much.
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Old 02-13-2009, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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