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Old 03-16-2009, 03:31 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I suppose this passes for wit in SC, but I found it thoroughly underwhelming.
I find what you think...quite unimportant.
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Old 03-16-2009, 03:33 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the south
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White people are nearly 70% of the US population. Which is about 205,000,000.
Black people make up about 12% of the population. Which is about 37,200,000.
Hispanics make up about 17% of the the population. Which is about 52,700,000 of them.
So the remaining 5,000,000 people are another race.

Since white people are the majority of the population, white people would therefore be highest proportion of the total people who live in poverty. But if you count the population of white people, the percentage of them living in poverty may be lower than other racial groups.
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Old 03-16-2009, 03:44 PM
 
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Since white people are the majority of the population, white people would therefore be highest proportion of the total people who live in poverty. But if you count the population of white people, the percentage of them living in poverty may be lower than other racial groups.
They are and they aren't, so since that should be fairly obvious to anyone can we now move on to the topic at hand?
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:38 PM
 
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They are and they aren't, so since that should be fairly obvious to anyone can we now move on to the topic at hand?
Think its a starve the banter, feed the discussion proposition.

I read a blog with a hoover thread-- he was challenged with how to deal with crime in the 60's, and the new movement theory at the time blamed it on poverty.

His answer was to not make a hero out of him, bring him to court, and let his parents be shamed (finger wagging) about how they failed to bring him up right. Child neglect, unwholesome environment, ammoral lifes.

LBJ's war on poverty began on a porch in Inez Kentucky. McCain visited there on the campaign trail last spring. The house was dilapidated, a board over a window, no tresspassing sign. A car was in the driveway with its window busted out covered with a blanket.

Just wondering if that porch was in better shape when LBJ stood on it, if the war ever began in earnest, or if the war was entirely misdirected.
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:47 PM
 
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If the conventional wisdom around these parts is that African Americans are poor because of social programs, a false sense of victimization then when those issues are removed we should expect not to see poverty.
I do not think social programs and victim mentality are the reasons for anyone being poor. Social programs and victim mentality are very frequently abused and become a crutch that keeps poor people limping along though, rather than learning how to walk. The idea of "fixing" poverty is a noble one, but I do not think it is as easy as throwing a bunch of handouts and psychological justifications towards any group and expecting good results.
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:37 PM
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Capitalizim. During slavery more than 70-80 percent of the white population might have been poor or whatever percentage were not slave holders. the figure i once heard was between 12-1 % of whites owned slaves or could be considered slave holders (20 or more slaves). What is impressive is the number of blacks that are not in poverty, not incarcerated, and educated, I think an economic system that gives you close to a 50% chance of making it is as good as it gets.
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Old 03-17-2009, 02:41 AM
 
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The idea of "fixing" poverty is a noble one, but I do not think it is as easy as throwing a bunch of handouts and psychological justifications towards any group and expecting good results.
Well I couldn't agree more but as the trend line on poverty that I posted above indicates, the programs of Federal government have been effective in reducing the rate of poverty but more importantly, industrial policy that encourages the establishment of good jobs is far more important.
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Old 03-17-2009, 08:04 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I believe three TRILLION has been spent on fighting poverty....and yet the numbers of 'poor' is basically the same.

Just as some on the left think it is time to end the war in Iraq,it is WAY past time to end the war on poverty.
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:08 AM
 
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I believe three TRILLION has been spent on fighting poverty....and yet the numbers of 'poor' is basically the same.

Just as some on the left think it is time to end the war in Iraq,it is WAY past time to end the war on poverty.
Basically the same?



The only thing that is basically the same is the curious relationship to the following graph.

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Old 03-17-2009, 09:30 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Thanks for that.

It actually shows that from when the 'war on poverty' began in 1964 the numbers were LESS than now.

So the war has really failed to produce results...except to make more poor people.
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