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1. A person may, subject to the provisions of subdivision two, use physical force upon another person when and to the extent he or she reasonably believes such to be necessary to defend himself, herself or a third person from what he or she reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of unlawful physical force by such other person, unless:
(a) The latter's conduct was provoked by the actor with intent to cause physical injury to another person; or
(b) The actor was the initial aggressor; except that in such case use of physical force is nevertheless justifiable if the actor has withdrawn from the encounter and effectively communicated such withdrawal to such other person but the latter persists in continuing the incident by the use or threatened imminent use of unlawful physical force; or
(c) The physical force involved is the product of a combat by agreement not specifically authorized by law
No crow here..Try being honest. I actually read links.
a firearm is 3 times more likely to be used in defense than assault.
send NRA money they are the only ones between us and the gun grab that will soon happen.
And cops are 99.9% likely to show up to a bad situation AFTER a rape, robbery, murder, etc. I'll take my chances counting on ME for protection FIRST, cops second.
When seconds count, police are always minutes away....
That 'duty to retreat' stuff is asinine! I'm glad I live where I do. If someone is in your home, or on your property with the intention of commiting a crime, you can use whatever means you need to to stop them. This is as it should be. The assumtion, under our law, is that someone commiting a felonious criminal act may be assumed to be dangerous. Especially if they are in your home or trying to enter your home, or vehicle, which is considered an extension of your home here.
NVplumber, as opposed to being dragged through the court system trying to prove what constitutes a credible threat to strangers??? I don't blame you. Justice system is supposed to protect the innocent and punish the guilty, but things do get turned around in some peoples minds all too often.
If it is a "ploy" then why it is on the official White House web site as part of Obama's Urban Policy? Crime and Law Enforcement
Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.
So closing some loopholes and seeking information to solve gun crimes equals "taking your guns away?" The only ones this states they want to keep guns away from are "children and criminals." Unless you are either one of those two, you'll be fine.
What?Well that can only be a fluke.Don't you know a firearm in the house increases the danger to a family by XXXX%?,the Brady campaign tells us so.
They were on the phone with 911,if they had just been a little more patient the government would have arrived to save them.And besides if they wouldn't have arrived in time and they would have been hurt or killed by the attacker statistcally it would have been ok because no guns allowed means in the grander scheme of things less people are likely to be hurt.So a couple people die because the government couldn't be there so what?,it is more important to be rid of the evil violent devices that a common person has no business or need to own.
Only government needs evil violent guns,wait how can a gun be evil and violent when government has them?If all guns are evil why isn't government evil when they have them?Meh no matter facts don't matter only that you feel good.
And what about the criminal?He is a human also,do we not count his life as worthful?What does it matter if it was a good guy or bad guy a life is a life.
If it comes down to a law abiding homeowner and his family surviving versus a criminal surviving, I will totally side with the homeowner every time and so will every other good person out there
Obviously you take the side of the criminal based on what you wrote
Castle doctrine --Love it, you have the right to protect your family and property.
The anti-gun people must hate that 42 of the 50 states have good gun laws to protect their citizens and are becoming more positive for the person who wants to carry or protect their homes.
It's not a 'loophole'. They want to stop face to face sales by non-FFL gun owners. That means when a father wants to pass a gun down to his son, it will happen in a gun shop between 10am and 6pm, Tuesday through Saturday (hours of my favorite shop). At least in the South, that happens on a milestone day like a birthday with the family in attendance. It would add extra expense on this as well because the FFL won't broker the deal for free.
As it has been stated earlier by many posters, most don't sell to strangers. We will sell via a shop on consignment or sell to someone we know.
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Originally Posted by Spoonman
seeking information to solve gun crimes
This explains it better than I can. NRA-ILA :: The "Tiahrt Amendment" on Firearms Traces: Protecting Gun Owners' Privacy and Law Enforcement Safety (http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=208 - broken link)
-Robert
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