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Old 04-18-2009, 11:00 PM
 
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The usual profile of those in attendance was an overweight white man w/ fake military pins showing guns & the American flag. They held signs of President Obama looking like Hitler & "socialism" spelled incorrectly on their placards\ signs. The kind of guys who try to disrupt anti-war marches w/ profanity & physical threats. Typical Republican.
OK, but where is the racism in that? What does being overweight have to do with it? And white? So far it sounds like just a bunch of fat white guys, but that's not racism. All of the things you are describing here sound like the work of lazy and frustrated people, but none of this is proof of any racism. I'm not saying they weren't racist, and I do think it was a tremendous waste of time for them to even be out there, but to make the leap and call them racists is just that; a leap.

It's one thing for you to post about them being racists, but for a celebrity to make that charge she really needs to have something to back it up. Does she?
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:06 PM
 
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Why were three African American speakers at the tea party events?

We all knew as soon as Obama was criticized racism would be called. Typical but wrong. Predicted to happen--yes.
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:11 PM
 
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Why were three African American speakers at the tea party events?

We all knew as soon as Obama was criticized racism would be called. Typical but wrong. Predicted to happen--yes.
Are there photographs or video clips of blacks participating in the tea party? If there are, Garofalo should be confronted with them, and she should issue an apology. Nobody is saying she has to like the protests, but charging people with racism when it isn't really there is lazy and a total cop-out. Unfortunately, "racism" is all too often a word people use today to intimidate people they don't agree with into shutting up, and that is a slap in the face to victims of actual racism.
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:19 PM
 
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The racism charge is getting funny anymore. I now say, when people do not agree with me, "It's because I'm white isn't it? LOL
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:27 PM
 
Location: los angeles
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OK, but where is the racism in that? What does being overweight have to do with it? And white? So far it sounds like just a bunch of fat white guys, but that's not racism. All of the things you are describing here sound like the work of lazy and frustrated people, but none of this is proof of any racism. I'm not saying they weren't racist, and I do think it was a tremendous waste of time for them to even be out there, but to make the leap and call them racists is just that; a leap.

It's one thing for you to post about them being racists, but for a celebrity to make that charge she really needs to have something to back it up. Does she?
You make a valid point since there wasn't anything overtly racist that I am aware of. Garafalo's point is that these usual Republican protesters are the ones you see at "Minuteman" demonstrations or picket against gays at gay rights parades. It is a safe assumption that these people are also like those who voted against Obama because they would never vote for a black man.
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:31 PM
 
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You make a valid point since there wasn't anything overtly racist that I am aware of. Garafalo's point is that these usual Republican protesters are the ones you see at "Minuteman" demonstrations or picket against gays at gay rights parades. It is a safe assumption that these people are also like those who voted against Obama because they would never vote for a black man.
But that's just the point. We can make all of the assumptions we want here, and you might even be right about who was involved. I'm not really trying to argue who was involved here. But for a public person to make those kind of charges, she should have to provide something more than assumptions. If she can't prove that this was racism, she shouldn't call it racism. There are plenty of other things she could have gone with where these tea parties were concerned. The word racism just gets thrown around way too much when there isn't anything other than assumptions to back it up. She could have called them out for plenty of other things that would have been almost impossible to dispute. Again, we're not really in all that much of a disagreement here. I just feel like she really copped-out here, and if she doesn't have something more than assumption to go by, she should offer some kind of retraction. Sometimes you have to retract things even when you're right (and maybe she is right) when there just isn't any evidence.
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:42 PM
 
Location: los angeles
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But that's just the point. We can make all of the assumptions we want here, and you might even be right about who was involved. I'm not really trying to argue who was involved here. But for a public person to make those kind of charges, she should have to provide something more than assumptions. If she can't prove that this was racism, she shouldn't call it racism. There are plenty of other things she could have gone with where these tea parties were concerned. The word racism just gets thrown around way too much when there isn't anything other than assumptions to back it up. She could have called them out for plenty of other things that would have been almost impossible to dispute. Again, we're not really in all that much of a disagreement here. I just feel like she really copped-out here, and if she doesn't have something more than assumption to go by, she should offer some kind of retraction. Sometimes you have to retract things even when you're right (and maybe she is right) when there just isn't any evidence.
Can't argue with your conclusion. Garofalo is like Hannity; sometimes overwhelmed in hate.
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:55 PM
 
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Garafalo is racist. Her comments are racist---reverse racist but racist all the same. She is surmising but her comments indite her.
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Garafalo is racist. Her comments are racist---reverse racist but racist all the same. She is surmising but her comments indite her.
Garofalo is so far left she's left America!
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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That's an insult to idiots.


That's funny!!!
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