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First of all, there is no "far right". This is just a term invented by liberals to disparage ALL religious conservatives. And by the way, 60 percent of Americans according to Battleground poll describe themselves as "conservative or somewhat conservative". 76.5% of Americans describe themselves as "Christian." This is not the GOP; this is the whole country
The Battleground Poll: 60% of Americans Describe Themselves As Conservative | Say Anything: North Dakota's Most Popular Political Blog (http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/the_battleground_poll_60_of_americans_describe_the mselves_as_conservative/ - broken link) Religious identification in the U.S.
So the idea that just a tiny loud minority of Christian conservative crazies are hijacking the GOP and causing them to lose elections is ludicrous, bigoted, and designed to create a false impression. The vast majority of us ARE Christian conservatives. The reality is, it's the liberals and moderates and those who follow their advice who are losing elections for the GOP.
Sorry, I just don't listen to the liberal media for tips on how to heal my party, anyway. They don't have our best interests at heart. The reason we've lost is because we've taken the media and the moderates' advice. Their narrative goes like this: If we just drop a few things from our platform like the pro-life plank, imagine how many more female voters and moderates we could get. We need to stop being obstructionist and try to get along. We need to reach across the aisle and be more likeable. We need to be more compassionate to the poor, and to do that we need more social spending.
That kind of thinking got us John McCain. He followed that advice to a tee. He worked very hard to get along with Democrats, scorned traditional conservative values, hugged the liberals, wooed the press, and promptly caused us to get our asses beat.
Arlen Spector said "the GOP has moved to the far right". That's the same canard the MSM uses. It's false. The GOP is less, not more, conservative or "right-wing" than we were 15 years ago when we swept control of Congress. And that is why we've lost.
The hardliners are right. We stick to our core conservative principles; staunchly pro-life, anti-illegal immigration, tax cuts, spending cuts, pro capitalist, anti-greenpeace whackjob environmental restrictions, we will start to win elections again. We'll let all the selfish opportunists like Spector, McCain, Hagel, Collins, and Snowe either get onboard or ge off the train. And we'll talk about our plans loudly and often like the GOP did in 1994.
But if we listen to all the anti-Palin moderate pukes out there, those who are embarrassed about the pro-life position, those who are afraid not to be accepted on the DC cocktail circuit, and those who want to be praised by the leftwing media, we're guaranteed to be a minority for a long time.
And for godsake, let's stop sabotaging ourselves by getting rid of our good conservatives because the liberals create a fuss. Tom Delay, Trent Lott et. al. You never see Democrats resign no matter how egregious their behavior is. Hell, William Jefferson can stash $90,000 in a freezer, Clinton's stooge can stuff official documents in his pants, and Barney Frank can run a prostitution ring in his basement. Never any calls for resignation. 'But you let Mark Foley send an email to a kid...no action, just an email...and we get him to resign. We eat our own. We allow George Allen to get hammered by the Washington Post for uttering some nebulous esoteric nonsense word, we allow him to be somehow miraculously cast as a racist for that, and we allow him to get beat without having raised a huge uproar. It's time to STOP listening to the damn leftwing media and the so-called moderates (who are really liberals) for advice on what we should do.
Be conservative. Shout it from the rooftops. Give people confidence. Do what we KNOW is right, and what has been PROVEN to work. Why on earth have we abandoned the proven formula for success. Bold unapologetic conservatism.
its all perspective. im a right winger and i believe the GOP is way too far to the left. look who they nominated as their presidential candidate. john mccain, who was hated by the right wing for his position on illegal immigration and other legislation he worked with leftists on. on the other hand, you have the democrats who seem to me to be way over to the left. electing obama who wants to spread the wealth. in the previous election they went more moderate by choosing kerry over dean. this time, due to bush's poor popularity, they managed to get a real leftist in the position.
You guys have a right to be as conservative as you want to be, obviously, but winning elections almost always requires winning the moderates. You really do have to appeal to the center unless your plan is to try to galvanize enough conservatives to overwhelm the liberal and moderate voters in every election.
You guys have a right to be as conservative as you want to be, obviously, but winning elections almost always requires winning the moderates. You really do have to appeal to the center unless your plan is to try to galvanize enough conservatives to overwhelm the liberal and moderate voters in every election.
Never interrupt the opposing party when they are forming a circular firing squad.
I should also mention that I am against trying to criminalize acts such as sodomy, fornication, etc. I support access to contraceptives and support comprehensive sex ed programs in schools.
First of all, there is no "far right". This is just a term invented by liberals to disparage ALL religious conservatives. And by the way, 60 percent of Americans according to Battleground poll describe themselves as "conservative or somewhat conservative". 76.5% of Americans describe themselves as "Christian." This is not the GOP; this is the whole country
The Battleground Poll: 60% of Americans Describe Themselves As Conservative | Say Anything: North Dakota's Most Popular Political Blog (http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/the_battleground_poll_60_of_americans_describe_the mselves_as_conservative/ - broken link) Religious identification in the U.S.
So the idea that just a tiny loud minority of Christian conservative crazies are hijacking the GOP and causing them to lose elections is ludicrous, bigoted, and designed to create a false impression. The vast majority of us ARE Christian conservatives. The reality is, it's the liberals and moderates and those who follow their advice who are losing elections for the GOP.
Sorry, I just don't listen to the liberal media for tips on how to heal my party, anyway. They don't have our best interests at heart. The reason we've lost is because we've taken the media and the moderates' advice. Their narrative goes like this: If we just drop a few things from our platform like the pro-life plank, imagine how many more female voters and moderates we could get. We need to stop being obstructionist and try to get along. We need to reach across the aisle and be more likeable. We need to be more compassionate to the poor, and to do that we need more social spending.
That kind of thinking got us John McCain. He followed that advice to a tee. He worked very hard to get along with Democrats, scorned traditional conservative values, hugged the liberals, wooed the press, and promptly caused us to get our asses beat.
Arlen Spector said "the GOP has moved to the far right". That's the same canard the MSM uses. It's false. The GOP is less, not more, conservative or "right-wing" than we were 15 years ago when we swept control of Congress. And that is why we've lost.
The hardliners are right. We stick to our core conservative principles; staunchly pro-life, anti-illegal immigration, tax cuts, spending cuts, pro capitalist, anti-greenpeace whackjob environmental restrictions, we will start to win elections again. We'll let all the selfish opportunists like Spector, McCain, Hagel, Collins, and Snowe either get onboard or ge off the train. And we'll talk about our plans loudly and often like the GOP did in 1994.
But if we listen to all the anti-Palin moderate pukes out there, those who are embarrassed about the pro-life position, those who are afraid not to be accepted on the DC cocktail circuit, and those who want to be praised by the leftwing media, we're guaranteed to be a minority for a long time.
And for godsake, let's stop sabotaging ourselves by getting rid of our good conservatives because the liberals create a fuss. Tom Delay, Trent Lott et. al. You never see Democrats resign no matter how egregious their behavior is. Hell, William Jefferson can stash $90,000 in a freezer, Clinton's stooge can stuff official documents in his pants, and Barney Frank can run a prostitution ring in his basement. Never any calls for resignation. 'But you let Mark Foley send an email to a kid...no action, just an email...and we get him to resign. We eat our own. We allow George Allen to get hammered by the Washington Post for uttering some nebulous esoteric nonsense word, we allow him to be somehow miraculously cast as a racist for that, and we allow him to get beat without having raised a huge uproar. It's time to STOP listening to the damn leftwing media and the so-called moderates (who are really liberals) for advice on what we should do.
Be conservative. Shout it from the rooftops. Give people confidence. Do what we KNOW is right, and what has been PROVEN to work. Why on earth have we abandoned the proven formula for success. Bold unapologetic conservatism.
Say it loud: I'm an angry, frightened reactionary and I'm proud.
About Mark Foley..."no action, just an email..." wow! Are you serious? Is this more of the new brainwashing you guys are eager volunteers for, I mean participants in? ("In fact Nixon resigned with honor", e.g.) Just curious.
First of all, there is no "far right". This is just a term invented by liberals to disparage ALL religious conservatives. And by the way, 60 percent of Americans according to Battleground poll describe themselves as "conservative or somewhat conservative". 76.5% of Americans describe themselves as "Christian." This is not the GOP; this is the whole country
Sorry Dude - but only 21% of the country - according to several recent polls - identify with the Republican party. Maybe you should check your math - you made a huge mistake somewhere.
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The hardliners are right. We stick to our core conservative principles; staunchly pro-life, anti-illegal immigration, tax cuts, spending cuts, pro capitalist, anti-greenpeace whackjob environmental restrictions, we will start to win elections again. We'll let all the selfish opportunists like Spector, McCain, Hagel, Collins, and Snowe either get onboard or ge off the train. And we'll talk about our plans loudly and often like the GOP did in 1994.
Please - do me a big favor - DO stick to your 'core conservative principals'. It's the surest way to ensure Democratic victories in upcoming elections... keep up the good work...
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And for godsake, let's stop sabotaging ourselves by getting rid of our good conservatives because the liberals create a fuss. Tom Delay, Trent Lott et. al.
Do me another huge favor - keep scumbags like Delay and Lott in the Republican party. Again - that would turn off so many moderates and independents that the Republicans would remain a small regional party.[/quote]
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Be conservative. Shout it from the rooftops. Give people confidence. Do what we KNOW is right, and what has been PROVEN to work. Why on earth have we abandoned the proven formula for success. Bold unapologetic conservatism.
Tell you what - I will PERSONALLY buy you a megaphone if you promise you will shout your passionate beliefs from a roof-top in a large city from now til the next election... Please - don't get larengitis...
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