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Originally Posted by I Like Taxes
I'll explain opportunity cost to you. Its when you give up your time for something else.
You never asked for clarification, so please stop playing the victim.
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1) You are seriously flattering yourself if you think you made me feel "victimized". that's laughable. just because I called you out on acting like a pompous a-hole doesn't mean you made me a victim.
2) I've already responded to this the first time you posted it. Telling kids, hey, sometimes people of the same sex have sex together, and don't beat them up for it, is NOT taking any serious amount of time out of the school curriculum.
You response was to reword your same sentiment using the jargon of "opportunity cost" but not explaining how teaching tolerance takes "ZOMG, so much time out of the school curriculum!" lol.
So explain to me
exactly how a sentence, or even a 45 minute session on tolerance is keeping kids from learning all the other stuff.
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I am mad since you are politicizing sexuality rather than teaching education.
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How does one teach education? Are they all learning how to be teachers?
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I disagree with your premise that it is a state job to make people more "civilized"
I don't want to mandate morality, since that it an individual responsibility, not a state responsibility.
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You must not have any kids. So typical of someone with no children thinking they can tell everyone else what to do their kids.
Guess what? Schools HAVE to teach civility or they wouldn't be able to teach, period. What do you think, that the kids should be allowed to run around in the classroom, have sex in the closet, and physically fight one another? No. You cannot teach when there is chaos. It's also hard to learn and stay focused on your schoolwork if you're worried about being bullied.
In order to teach, the school/state/whatever you want to call it, has to institute some order and in doing so they inadvertently teach civility.
Teaching children to be tolerant of gays is just an extension of what the schools already have to teach kids. There is no big deal here.
What you're suggesting, that the state stay out of it morality, is impossible. Please tell me how an institution who has a child five days a week for eight hours a day is going to make children behave but without telling them why they should behave. Kids need explanations as to why they shouldn't fight someone, for example. You can't just order them around like they were dogs without explanation, at least not if you want it to sink in and stick. You think the parents should teach their children, I agree with that, but the school is responsible for children while they are there and in some senses they do parent the child. That's just the way it is.
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Originally Posted by I Like Taxes
If you want to mandate morality, then we should start teaching the Bible in public school, but somehow I believe that you would be against this concept.
So, stop being a hypocrite.
So, please stop calling yourself a liberal and join the religious right.
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lol, nice strawman. You tell me my feelings and then call me a name because of what YOU'RE SAYING I feel, when I've said no such thing.
unbelievable.
anyway, your twisted "logic" (which is no surprise to me at this point) is wrong.
I have no problem with the Bible, or any religion, or atheism being taught at a school
as theory so long as they're all taught together, so kids can compare and contrast for themselves. I would have a problem with just one of them being taught, if that one were being taught
as fact, because religious beliefs are NOT facts and we shouldn't be lying to children, but that's because lying is wrong, not because I hate the Bible or whatever.
If you want to say I'm not a liberal just because I don't think we should teach lies, well, then you're crazy. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by I Like Taxes
Then you should have no problem with voluntary association, but you do. You want to mandate morality.
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No, I just want every child to have a safe learning environment so that they can actually learn because they're not looking over their shoulder every minute.
What's your great solution if we don't teach tolerance in the school? Take every child who has a beef with someone and stick them both in the Thunderdome? I mean, seriously.
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