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Old 06-10-2009, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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I've only had a couple glasses of cabernet so I'm pretty coherent, so I'm thinking the confusion is all on your part at this point.

They must be big glasses.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:51 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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Here are some sample counties you can find others but the general trend is the same.

For big city liberal counties lets take
Queens NY,
Los Angles CA,
Bronx County NY,
New Orleans County LA,
Suffolk County MA (Boston)

and compare them with some rural republican counties

Mercer WV,
Blaine OK,
Jeff Davis GA,
Owyhee ID,
Oliver ND,

Here is how they stack up

Median income 2000 Census

Democratic Cities

Los Angeles $42,129
Suffolk County $39,355
Queens County $37,439
Bronx County $27,611
New Orleans County (N\A external factors)

Republican Rural

Mercer $15,564
Blaine $28,353
Jeff Davis $27,310
Owyhee $28,399
Oliver $36,650

If you would care to look you will find similar disparities in % with college education. These areas are randomly selected, but the trend is apparent if you look at averages for all counties rated urban/rural. Quality of life may be difficult to measure, but large cities generally are rated high because of the better access to transport, shops, entertainment, dining and cultural events. I hope this answers your question.
those rural places are cheap to live in. larger cities rank horrible when it comes to quality of life.

America's Most Miserable Cities - Forbes.com
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Jesse Helms practiced identity politics as much as any Dem ever did. Do you even know anything about Helms' career and campaigns?

As I said earlier, Goldwater unfortunately is dead, so are Buckley and Kemp. For that matter, so is Reagan - not that Reagan ever did much for the poor and minorities but he wasn't a racist. He had prejudices but they were along class lines, not ethnic/racial lines.

In case you hadn't noticed Helms is dead and don't forget he started as .....a dem.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:56 PM
 
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Conservative leanings..You know what "conservative" group I'm talking about. I believe something happened at a museum today.

Kind of reminds one of thte 60's with all the liberal revolutionaires calling for revolution on cmpuises. Then the various groups killing cops ;burning and looting at the democratic convention in chicago and the Watts riots. Even Ayers got his licks in on killing the memebers of the establishment. Bombing and setting up ambushes of the police. Speakers on campus calling for people to kill the PIGS and many doing it. Just like our new head of homeland security calls for watching radicals but never veterans. ;especaily to the polcie depts that are full of veterans.When I saw thoise reports on the tea baggers being dangerous I almost fell out of the chair;remmebring the 60's liberal radicals that were more like muslim terrorist. My how times change.A fewer nuts like always kill and the coutnry goes into a radical panic.In those days even the mureders were called repressed people so i guess nothig change except who is repressed and who is the establishment pigs. Only in america.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Originally Posted by Randomstudent View Post
Here are some sample counties you can find others but the general trend is the same.

For big city liberal counties lets take
Queens NY,
Los Angles CA,
Bronx County NY,
New Orleans County LA,
Suffolk County MA (Boston)

and compare them with some rural republican counties

Mercer WV,
Blaine OK,
Jeff Davis GA,
Owyhee ID,
Oliver ND,

Here is how they stack up

Median income 2000 Census

Democratic Cities

Los Angeles $42,129
Suffolk County $39,355
Queens County $37,439
Bronx County $27,611
New Orleans County (N\A external factors)

Republican Rural

Mercer $15,564
Blaine $28,353
Jeff Davis $27,310
Owyhee $28,399
Oliver $36,650

If you would care to look you will find similar disparities in % with college education. These areas are randomly selected, but the trend is apparent if you look at averages for all counties rated urban/rural. Quality of life may be difficult to measure, but large cities generally are rated high because of the better access to transport, shops, entertainment, dining and cultural events. I hope this answers your question.
It is so much more a matter of preference. I am a conservative and would be miserable living in the country. Quality of life is subjective.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Earth
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[quote=gf1025;9236261]I wasn't going to respond until I read.. the Bronx. Although the Bronx has areas in need to development and as a whole isn't a "rich" county. It has been improving tremendously and it's nothing like the Bronx you are probably talking about. The 80's Bronx. I invite you to come to neighborhoods like Pelham Gardens, Pelham Bay, Riverdale, Woodlawn, Morris Park, just to mention the best of them..... ALL IN THE BRONX!! [quote]

Fieldston, Throgs Neck and IIRC City Island also.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:59 PM
 
Location: MIA
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Back to the OP -

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If liberalism could be graded/evaluated based on areas with the highest concentrations of liberals, how would they score for;


a) Education

b) Standard of Living

c) Crime Rate

d) Job Opportunities

e) Overall Happiness


Pretty low... And if it werent for the government to give "free jobs" and "funny money" and the Republican business owners who employ some of these these liberal, ghetto-dwelling hooligans, human development conditions in these "Liberal Kingdoms" would mirror those in Africa!
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:01 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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[quote=majoun;9236503][quote=gf1025;9236261]I wasn't going to respond until I read.. the Bronx. Although the Bronx has areas in need to development and as a whole isn't a "rich" county. It has been improving tremendously and it's nothing like the Bronx you are probably talking about. The 80's Bronx. I invite you to come to neighborhoods like Pelham Gardens, Pelham Bay, Riverdale, Woodlawn, Morris Park, just to mention the best of them..... ALL IN THE BRONX!!
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Fieldston, Throgs Neck and IIRC City Island also.
Then and now. look down the page and see the same locations and how they've changed.
South Bronx - 1980s/early 90s - Page 2 - SkyscraperPage Forum
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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[quote=majoun;9236503][quote=gf1025;9236261]I wasn't going to respond until I read.. the Bronx. Although the Bronx has areas in need to development and as a whole isn't a "rich" county. It has been improving tremendously and it's nothing like the Bronx you are probably talking about. The 80's Bronx. I invite you to come to neighborhoods like Pelham Gardens, Pelham Bay, Riverdale, Woodlawn, Morris Park, just to mention the best of them..... ALL IN THE BRONX!!
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Fieldston, Throgs Neck and IIRC City Island also.

It has been years but the Harlem Yatch club on City Island was a great place.
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Earth
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In case you hadn't noticed Helms is dead and don't forget he started as .....a dem.
How many elected Republican officials were there in the South when Helms first entered local politics in Raleigh in the '50s? Not that many even in NC or TN which both had more Republicans than the other Southern states.

Next you'll cite Strom Thurmond as an example of Democratic "identity politics", conveniently ignoring the party he belonged to for the last 36 years of his political career.
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