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I agree with that. People over 75 should NOT have transplants. They should have MRIs but transplants should be reserved for those who will most benefit from them. I would say that ends around 70 or so.
Aw hell, when one gets to be 75 let's just let the government deny ALL treatment. Why allow MRIs to a 75 year old? Pure waste of time and money. RIght?
Let's see how you feel when you get to be 70 or so,....OK?
Odds are your bluster will turn into a lawsuit, or a pity party.
Who made hm a god/ He isn't even a doctor. What next decide who gets life savings procedures? I say leave nedical ethics upoto doctors and the decision upto family oir living wills.Like a nuse from england told me just the other day;she thniks that say someone who falls and has a bad break is going to have a hardtime being in tracton for weeks and not getting emrgency surgery which what people expect of heathcarte in this country as a example.
Aw hell, when one gets to be 75 let's just let the government deny ALL treatment. Why allow MRIs to a 75 year old? Pure waste of time and money. RIght?
Let's see how you feel when you get to be 70 or so,....OK?
Odds are your bluster will turn into a lawsuit, or a pity party.
I believe it's pretty rare for someone that old to receive a transplant.
"That is why it should not be left to them to decide."
A little story for Kevy about my neighbor..
Around 10 years ago my neighbors mother had a stroke, after being in a coma for a while the doctors told the daughter there was no hope and wanted to pull the plug.
The daughter refused and the mother came out of the coma and is a live today doing very well..
Moral of the story, Doctors don't always have the correct answers.
I know someone when I was in college who got into a really bad accident & was in a coma for..geez, I don't even remember how long. I'll say at least quite a few months if not a year. Anyway, he eventually came out of it. His speech & walking were of course affected, but otherwise healthy. This is why it is IMPERATIVE that people write a living will. Because in that instance, it is ultimately left up to the person who's sick what they want done to them. When that is not done, then we get situations like Obama is talking about, which I must say I do agree w/him on that stance.
I FULLY 100% agree. ALL treatments should be weighed with cost, side effects and prognosis considered. People who are death's doorstep should be made comfortable but all life prolonging treatments should cease when the doctors agree that it is futile.
My wife is an RN in the cardio labs where there put in stents and such.
When she tells me families are insisting on doing these procedures on 99 year old great grand parents I have to question it. These procedures are extremely expensive. I do not want to put a dollar price on a human life but sometimes families act on emotion and not clear thinking when making these types of decisions and it is not a benefit to anyone involved or anyone in general.
But isn't that for "I don't want any more to prolong life" type of documents ?
What if it goes the other way though..doctors deciding that you don't need that treatment based on your current health and studies on whether or not the next procedure is considered "needless" ?
1) No. They are for anyone who wants to make the decisions in their medical care and may become unable to make those decisions when the time comes. Anyone of legal age can have an Advanced Directive.
2) We already make those decisions. There is such a thing as the cure being worse than the disease. We also will not order tests a patient requests unless it is clinically indicated or a preventative measure.
The Doctor. Or rather I would say the doctors since more than one should be in on such a decision. But if the person is gravely ill or injured and 3 docs agree that further life extending treatments are futile and will not give any quality of life, the plug should be pulled whether the family desires it or not. Families do not make logical decisions when it involves a loved one. That is why it should not be left to them to decide.
19 years ago my mother had cancer so bad the doctors thought she wouldn't survive and a priest was called in for the last rites. She's still alive today...
Let me put it bluntly: any stupid bureaucrat tries to deny myself or a loved one medical treatment like you wish, I'll take matters into my own hands with them. Nazis can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
I agree with that. People over 75 should NOT have transplants. They should have MRIs but transplants should be reserved for those who will most benefit from them. I would say that ends around 70 or so.
Several people on my father's side of my family have lived into their 90's and 100's. You won't be so quick to deny healthcare to someone in their 70's when it's you though, I'm sure.
That seems to be where we're headed. I pray it's not accepted by most Americans.
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