Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
people are confusing health care with health insurance. no one is denied care.
You forgot the qualifier. For life threatening emergencies. Plenty of people are denied care b/c they can't pay for it. Sad to say, people get turned away from our office b/c they can't pay, or they don't have the "right" insurance. We send our medicaid patients to the health dept. for immunizations b/c we can't take the hit of providing them for free.
There is also another side to it. People who rather spend their money on other stuff...do we who are paying for it them self, have to pay for them as well...
I pay for my families health ins. which isn't through a employer....but I choose to pay for it instead I have to skip buying something else!
And I hope that you realize how lucky you are.
There is just no way that someone working part-time, and/or earning barely more than minimum wage is able to afford family, and in some states, individual coverage.
I was one of those people once, and now that I can afford to give back, I am more than happy to do so.
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
4,196 posts, read 5,851,167 times
Reputation: 670
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katiana
You forgot the qualifier. For life threatening emergencies. Plenty of people are denied care b/c they can't pay for it. Sad to say, people get turned away from our office b/c they can't pay, or they don't have the "right" insurance. We send our medicaid patients to the health dept. for immunizations b/c we can't take the hit of providing them for free.
there are a crapload of local health care places around here. they even have free dental care as well. or as they call it, "at no cost to you." we all know that is a total lie, but people eat it up.
You want heathcare? Then pay for it yourself! I dont think its fair to use taxpayer money to give free healthcare to people who dont work, or chose to do without it because they prefer doing drugs to bieng responsible. This is getting out of hand, whats next? Everyone should have a free car?
I don't want it free. I would love to pay into a system that is reasonable, and one accountable to me... a reformed medicare, for anybody willing I might add.
Now for self-defeaters like you who only look for ways to put others in trouble while going down the drain themselves, I also hope that the private insurance companies are better controlled in that they don't dump you at the most opportune of times (for them, not you).
But then, I've a better chance of getting my point across to a wall...
You want heathcare? Then pay for it yourself! I dont think its fair to use taxpayer money to give free healthcare to people who dont work, or chose to do without it because they prefer doing drugs to bieng responsible. This is getting out of hand, whats next? Everyone should have a free car?
Have conservatives ever once stopped to think that there some people who do not want to be out of work? I don't want to be out of work. What if unexpected things come up? I used to work at Dollar Store where I was fired because the owner thought I was a lesbian. Very unexpected. I know what you would say. Sue them. Well, I did not have that type of money and I still do not.
And I do not do drugs. I do not drink, drugs, smoke or anything.
I go to school fulltime and did work 2 jobs while going full time.
So don't even tell me I was not responsible.
And yes, getting a free car is going too far.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ecvMatt
Everything becomes a "right" when people are too lazy and irresponsible to provide it for themselves.
Excuse me?
Maybe in YOUR world everyone is too lazy or irresponsible. In the REAL world, people lose their jobs suddenly (especially in this economy), people get sick suddenly.
Now I agree with you up to a point-people who are so lazy or irresponsible and are not trying to find a job deserve no health care and should not have the government help them.
there are a crapload of local health care places around here. they even have free dental care as well. or as they call it, "at no cost to you." we all know that is a total lie, but people eat it up.
It is not a "total lie". The only health care our local health dept. provides is immunizations. Some others provide "well baby care" but not sick child care. Few provide adult health care. There are community clinics that operate on sliding scales, but they all want something. And these CCs are not the specialists you need if you have cancer, severe heart disease, etc. There are a few docs out there who will take a few cases at no charge, but people shouldn't have to depend on serendipity to get health care.
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
4,196 posts, read 5,851,167 times
Reputation: 670
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katiana
It is not a "total lie". The only health care our local health dept. provides is immunizations. Some others provide "well baby care" but not sick child care. Few provide adult health care. There are community clinics that operate on sliding scales, but they all want something. And these CCs are not the specialists you need if you have cancer, severe heart disease, etc. There are a few docs out there who will take a few cases at no charge, but people shouldn't have to depend on serendipity to get health care.
ron paul used to treat patients for free rather than accept government health care. oh, and there is no such thing as free. I stick by my proposal. the government should remove all tax incentives afforded to parents. the child tax credit, ect. use that money to finance health insuance for all children.
Jack and Jane are middleclass who both work and make 38K each,they don't overspend on lavish things,they have normal stuff for living quality like a car.They have a baby,the baby is diagnoised with birth defects.Every single insurance company denies them insurance because the baby is "high risk".
These defects become life threatening,they have to take the kid in for care which the doctors treat.The first bill comes in for $275,000 and more treatments will be needed for a unknown amount of time.Leins are placed,their credit is destroyed,possibly wages garnished.They will be forever in debt beyond any possible way of ever paying it off,basically their lives financially are ruined forever.The politician who voted this because insurance companies donated to their election to allow for this to happen will never have to worry about this happening to themself because tax money gives them free care.
What's their choice?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
