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Here's the facts. You can get an abortion for $500 in most places.
What we all should be concerned about is stuff like hip replacements, knee replacements, expensive cancer treatment (b/c of high cost of drugs) vs. getting the low cost less effective government allowed treatment, etc.
The stuff that costs $25,000 and up is what we all should be worried about, not a $500 abortion that most people could figure out a way to pay for if they really wanted one.
Everyone is getting sidetracked b/c of reproductive issues and those are the least expensive issues! Birthing a baby doesn't cost but a fraction of what a heart transplant costs! A family isn't gonna go bankrupt over the cost of birthing a baby, but they sure as hell will over a heart transplant.
Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion - Yahoo! Asia News (http://asia.news.yahoo.com/ap/20090805/twl-us-health-care-overhaul-abortion-ef375f8.html - broken link)
Its all becomming clear now why the libs are so rabid for this
Nope, it's to **** you off and make you post a gazillion inflammatory threads on C-D - and look! It worked!
If I was an insurance company, I would much rather pay for an abortion.
It cost about $25,000 to have a baby, it cost about $300 for an abortion.
If you are footing the bill, which would you rather pay?
What is wrong with adoption? A great alternative so that babies are not murdered and families who are unable to have kids of their own can have kids. A no lose situation
nope. it will allow 100's of thousands of men poised at brink of retirement to cross over to the promised land. the only reason, the only, they are working is the for medical benefits. skyrocketing drain on pension funds and with our youth poised to start working --some of the sorriest customer service you have seen in your life is about to happen.
and that is why those smart hard rights wana stop it.
"who you guna get to do your dirty work when all the slaves are free"
joni mitchell "passion play" -- sing it.
Same reason they won't cover LASIK. It's a procedure that you get because you choose to, but there's really no medical necessity behind it. As much as the left pushes it 99.999999% of abortions are done because they don't want a child. Period.
Yeah, force those women who don't want a child to have one. That'll fix 'em. We need more children being raised by women who never wanted them.
The right wing mantra...Save the Fetus-Screw the Child
They are so self righteous over the abortion issue, but once the child is born, they do not feel that the child and its parents deserves to stay healthy and have guaranteed affordable coverage.
Do you complain that people are not responsible when having sex? That is the real problem. More responsible sex = less unwanted pregnancies! Wow, what a concept!
That is a tricky thing because abortion is a legal medical procedure so why shouldn't your healthcare cover it? Makes sense.
Some people will object on moral grounds saying they don't want their money to be used for abortions, which makes sense since it'd be a government option.
I don't know what kind of coverage is available now for abortion cause I've never looked into it, but if any private insurance covers it (I would if I were private insurance, it is cheaper than costs of having the baby), then the people objecting would already be paying for it.
As long as pregnancy and childbirth are covered, abortion should be as well. As you said, it is a legal medical procedure. Just because you don't agree with it does not mean it should not be covered (not YOU, generic YOU). I may not want to contribute to cover someone who is having their umpteeth child but it is what it is. Besides, abortions are a lot less expensive than the pregnancy and delivery of a healthy chld let alone one with health issues.
Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion - Yahoo! Asia News (http://asia.news.yahoo.com/ap/20090805/twl-us-health-care-overhaul-abortion-ef375f8.html - broken link)
Its all becomming clear now why the libs are so rabid for this
LOL.. really.. you have to be kidding with this nonsense.. Wow.. talk about desperation.. LOL
No.. it has nothing to do with 47M and growing uninsured (of which 80% are legal US Citizens.. the other 20% are NON Citizens.. both here legally AND illegally)
Has nothign to do with the fact that insurance premiums have risen at a 12% tick while inflation (hence income) has only risen at a 2.5% rate.
Has nothing to do with the fact that the uninsured accumulate $37Billion in unpaid hospital bills that.. guess what.. get passed on to higher costs to those that have insurance or CAN pay out of pocket.
Has nothing to do with the fact that the average cost to insure a family of 4 is $12K a year. At the average household income of $56K a year.. that is approx 22% of a household income.. equivelant to a second mortgage.
Has nothing to do with the fact that those that most need insurance and do not , for whatever reason, qualify for a "group" plan with their employer find themselves unable to even purchase insurance and if they DO they pay 3x's the rate of a "healthy" person.
Has nothing to do with the fact that over 50% of bankruptcies in the U.S is caused as a result of overwhelming medical bills.
Has nothing to do with the fact that U.S companies can no longer compete with foreign competitors who spends 1/2 the GDP on healthcare that Americans spend.... and that costs get passed on to higher prices for products as opposed to our foreign competition.
There are many more reasons.. but I guess none of that matters.. as the REAL reason is all about abortion..
[quote=stan4;10119862 Driving up the price for people's sexual choices.[/quote]
Having children is also a sexual choice (if you are calling an abortion a sexual choice) so would you agree that IF abortion isn't covered then childbirth shouldn't be as well? It isn't like childbirth is mandatory, it is a choice.
That is a tricky thing because abortion is a legal medical procedure so why shouldn't your healthcare cover it? Makes sense.
Some people will object on moral grounds saying they don't want their money to be used for abortions, which makes sense since it'd be a government option.
I don't know what kind of coverage is available now for abortion cause I've never looked into it, but if any private insurance covers it (I would if I were private insurance, it is cheaper than costs of having the baby), then the people objecting would already be paying for it.
Probably for the same reason it shouldn't cover routine pregnancy and Viagra. Which is the same reason car insurance doesn't cover oil changes and brakes.
However I would agree if an abortion was needed as a non routine procedure, it should be covered.
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Wow.. talk about desperation.. LOL
