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Old 08-05-2009, 06:19 PM
 
Location: California
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I can't believe people expect healthcare insurance to cover a routine pregnancy. That is something that is is supposed to be a planned expense. Is it just those who bang like rabbits without any care or thought?
Medical problems can occur and need to be addressed. May issues can be avoided with prenatal care. Issues that would be very expensive to deal with later. Deadly even.

That said, you can currently buy insurance with no maternity rider.

Can someone who has insurance and has recently given birth (routine/no complications) chime in with what the total cost was? I doubt too many people could afford it, planned or not.
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:22 PM
 
Location: California
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THERE IT IS.

The truth comes out. Only "bad" women get pregnant and don't want to give birth. Good women don't do that. So if a woman wants an abortion, she's bad and her punishment is either she has a child she doesn't want to have or she should pay for the abortion herself.
That's always at the bottom of it, even though people don't like to say it.
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion - Yahoo! Asia News (http://asia.news.yahoo.com/ap/20090805/twl-us-health-care-overhaul-abortion-ef375f8.html - broken link)

Its all becomming clear now why the libs are so rabid for this
You are wrong.

Libs view killing a 6 month old fetus as nonchalantly as if they were buying a box of rubbers. This is not an excuse for them to slip in few thousand more abortions, to them the abortion angle in ancillary.
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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That is just unfair and selfish
Forcing women to risk their health and lives (every pregnancy has risks) because she had unwanted pregnancy so that someone else can have a child isn't unfair and selfish?
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:27 PM
 
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I can't believe people expect healthcare insurance to cover a routine pregnancy. That is something that is is supposed to be a planned expense. Is it just those who bang like rabbits without any care or thought?
Contraception fails - you do know that, right? The problem is that (sometimes expensive) tests and check-ups are needed to discern what's a routine pregnancy and what isn't. Broke people may skimp on tests and small problems may blow up to big ones.
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Key West
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Forcing women to risk their health and lives (every pregnancy has risks) because she had unwanted pregnancy so that someone else can have a child isn't unfair and selfish?
No it is not. She can have the knowledge that she gave the gift of life to another couple and a chance to a child.

And I also said that I don't mind if the mothers life is at risk that she terminates
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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I can't believe people expect healthcare insurance to cover a routine pregnancy. That is something that is is supposed to be a planned expense. Is it just those who bang like rabbits without any care or thought?
That would certainly put a dent in the birth rate if insurances stopped covering child birth. And probably increase the rate of abortions.
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:32 PM
 
Location: California
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No it is not. She can have the knowledge that she gave the gift of life to another couple and a chance to a child.

And I also said that I don't mind if the mothers life is at risk that she terminates
Maybe she isn't in a "gift giving" mood.
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Key West
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Maybe she isn't in a "gift giving" mood.
Well, she can pay extra and not have us cover it then
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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No it is not. She can have the knowledge that she gave the gift of life to another couple and a chance to a child.
Oh dear, you aren't in touch with reality, are you? Force a woman to host a parasite for nine months and then think she's paid well by a warm fuzzy feeling you think she should have.

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And I also said that I don't mind if the mothers life is at risk that she terminates
And I said every pregnancy carries risks to health and the possibility of death. The urban legend is that those risks can be anticipated before a woman dies or her health is compromised. That's not the case. Sometimes the first sign of trouble comes moments before the woman dies. Sometimes the woman dies immediately after childbirth. Every pregnancy has risks. Every woman has the right to decide if she wants to chance those risks every time she gets pregnant.

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