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Old 08-05-2009, 08:23 PM
 
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What??? First I'll say that I'm adamantly pro-life. But even I know that pro-choice people (not all of whom are liberal ) don't want to just to murder babies. It's that they don't even see abortion as murder...I disagree with them on that, but I digress...What an ignorant post.
Sir, I am just being logical. My theory can be proven by the simplest of deductions. For example, think about it... liberals want the government to spend more money on art. They pay adults to create art, but not babies. The obvious purpose of this is to lead to the creation of more adult-made art, which is obviously better than baby-made art, thereby causing babies to feel increasingly inadequate because of all this art being made which is better than theirs, which will increase the rates of infant depression and suicide. Hmm... yea sounds like the libs have a pretty "innocent" motive for that one.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Liar, again. It's a shame you won't open your eyes to your own ignorance.
Wrong again. I don't lie.
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Old 08-05-2009, 09:21 PM
 
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no its a choice precedure and its the issue of the decades. Why shpuld others pay for abortions if they beleiev its murder. t amy threow a wrnch in the works altogehter.I mean what are they goin gto do if they have massive numbers refuse to filoe tax returns like in the vietnam war when they burned draft cards. Can't hanlde it basically. Fine them the they refuse to pay the fine and the government faces sending wage earners to jail.
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Old 08-05-2009, 09:46 PM
 
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Personally,I'm really not sure how I feel about this subject. I do believe that women should have control over their own bodies,to be sure. Should the tax payers have to pay for elective abortions? I don't know. If the mother's life/health is at stake,I could see it. I just don't know if it's fair to force people who are adamantly opposed to abortion to pay for it w/ their tax dollars. However,I know alot of people (including myself) who had no choice in paying for Bush's war w/ our tax dollars.

Just not totally sure,I can see where both sides are coming from.
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:13 PM
 
Location: California
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Personally,I'm really not sure how I feel about this subject. I do believe that women should have control over their own bodies,to be sure. Should the tax payers have to pay for elective abortions? I don't know. If the mother's life/health is at stake,I could see it. I just don't know if it's fair to force people who are adamantly opposed to abortion to pay for it w/ their tax dollars. However,I know alot of people (including myself) who had no choice in paying for Bush's war w/ our tax dollars.

Just not totally sure,I can see where both sides are coming from.
It's their tax dollars too.

The way I see it you can assume YOUR tax dollars are being spent only on the things you like, while OTHER PEOPLE'S tax dollars are being spent on the things you don't like. It's the only way to mentally get past the idea thay you are paying for something you don't want to pay for. And the only way ANYTHING will ever get done.
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:43 PM
 
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I'd be willing to bet that if the government started funding the killing of puppies right before they were born, because the mother dog didn't want them, the far left would be burning vet clinics.
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:45 PM
 
Location: California
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I'd be willing to bet that if the government started funding the killing of puppies right before they were born, because the mother dog didn't want them, the far left would be burning vet clinics.
If the mother dog could talk, and it was early term, I'd get behind that.

We have too many unwanted animals as it is.
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:56 PM
 
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That is a tricky thing because abortion is a legal medical procedure so why shouldn't your healthcare cover it? Makes sense.
So is a facelift, tummy tuck, and Botox. You think we should pay for them also?
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:08 AM
 
Location: California
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So is a facelift, tummy tuck, and Botox. You think we should pay for them also?
Sometimes plastic surgery comes with health benefits, including after drastic weight loss. So it would be case by case.

I'm also not opposed to requiring a larger co payments for anything that is beyond basic treatment. Maybe that would alleviate some of the trouble people have?
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Sometimes plastic surgery comes with health benefits, including after drastic weight loss. So it would be case by case.

I'm also not opposed to requiring a larger co payments for anything that is beyond basic treatment. Maybe that would alleviate some of the trouble people have?
How about this: You pay a co-pay to your PCP of $50.00 per visit.

You pay a co-pay of $100.00 to a Specialist.

You have an annual deductible of $1000.00

I think that is only fair - and it will go a long way towards keeping premiums down.
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