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Old 08-05-2009, 02:28 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Yes, overburden them and tire them out to the point of resignation and acceptance of all that comes their way "for their own good". They will be too tired to protest and will gladly have the government take care of them.
Now you're catching on!
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:39 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Yes, Yes, Now I see, the solution to people being too far in debt, it is to bribe them to take on more debt! It makes perfect sense to me now. Perhaps the government can find a way to make debt edible and we can cure world hunger with it also!
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:41 PM
 
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"Here is another scenario.

Suppose I have 2 vehicles-----a vehicle I drive a lot with good mileage and a gas guzzler I drive very little.

I had planned on trading the vehicle I drive a lot for a new car, however, it doesn't qualify for " cash for clunkers"

I then trade the vehicle I drive very little for the cash for clunkers .

The govt will then brag how much fuel is being saved by this trade,when the fact is it was very little as that gas guzzler never was driven much to start with.

The govt is assuming the clunkers being traded were driven the same # of miles as the new car being bought when they label their program a success.

Not necessarily !"

This was posted on one of the state forums, but I think it bares repeating on this forum because I think it is very likely that this scenario happens frequently. Add to that the fact that servicable cars that could be used by less fortunate are being destroyed, it becomes questionable.
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Here
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smaller - definition of smaller - web dictionary, thesaurus - smaller meanings, synonyms

Definitions of smaller

1. [adj] - small or little relative to something else
Cash for Clunkers Eligible New Cars
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:50 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Yes, Yes, Now I see, the solution to people being too far in debt, it is to bribe them to take on more debt! It makes perfect sense to me now. Perhaps the government can find a way to make debt edible and we can cure world hunger with it also!
Trust me, it's been talked about. If Jesus could make water into wine or whatever he supposedly did, then the President should be able to make food out of debt. He's working on that as we speak.
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:54 PM
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Is this supposed to somehow debunk what I said?

In order to get a Chevy Suburban, you'd have to trade in a vehicle that is larger and less efficient than a Suburban.

They're not going to take your Toyota Camry and give you credit towards a Chevy Suburban under this plan.
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Old 08-05-2009, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Here
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Is this supposed to somehow debunk what I said?

In order to get a Chevy Suburban, you'd have to trade in a vehicle that is larger and less efficient than a Suburban.

They're not going to take your Toyota Camry and give you credit towards a Chevy Suburban under this plan.
The fact that a Suburban is even on the list is hilarious. I thought the whole point was to get people into smaller, more efficient cars. At 14/19 MPG, seems like a great addition to the list.

By the way, what exactly are you going to trade in that's bigger than a Suburban? A tank?
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Old 08-05-2009, 03:21 PM
 
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Oh how right you are. One of the first things that needs to be done to destabilize the economy and the people in true Marxism fasion is to over burden them. Create chaos. That is this administration's plans.
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Yes, overburden them and tire them out to the point of resignation and acceptance of all that comes their way "for their own good". They will be too tired to protest and will gladly have the government take care of them.
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Yes, Yes, Now I see, the solution to people being too far in debt, it is to bribe them to take on more debt! It makes perfect sense to me now. Perhaps the government can find a way to make debt edible and we can cure world hunger with it also!
Can one of you show me where ONE person has been forced to participate in this program? By using your logic, there should be no incentives to stimulate the economy..That's ridiculous. Should we end first time homebuyer incentive programs? People and lenders must be responsible. The Government can't legislate responsibility, but they can and have with the CARS program offer opportunity.
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Old 08-05-2009, 03:24 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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"Here is another scenario.

Suppose I have 2 vehicles-----a vehicle I drive a lot with good mileage and a gas guzzler I drive very little.

I had planned on trading the vehicle I drive a lot for a new car, however, it doesn't qualify for " cash for clunkers"

I then trade the vehicle I drive very little for the cash for clunkers .

The govt will then brag how much fuel is being saved by this trade,when the fact is it was very little as that gas guzzler never was driven much to start with.

The govt is assuming the clunkers being traded were driven the same # of miles as the new car being bought when they label their program a success.

Not necessarily !"

This was posted on one of the state forums, but I think it bares repeating on this forum because I think it is very likely that this scenario happens frequently. Add to that the fact that servicable cars that could be used by less fortunate are being destroyed, it becomes questionable.
That is so true! That is exactly our situation also.
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Old 08-05-2009, 03:29 PM
 
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"Here is another scenario.

Suppose I have 2 vehicles-----a vehicle I drive a lot with good mileage and a gas guzzler I drive very little.

I had planned on trading the vehicle I drive a lot for a new car, however, it doesn't qualify for " cash for clunkers"

I then trade the vehicle I drive very little for the cash for clunkers .

The govt will then brag how much fuel is being saved by this trade,when the fact is it was very little as that gas guzzler never was driven much to start with.

The govt is assuming the clunkers being traded were driven the same # of miles as the new car being bought when they label their program a success.

Not necessarily !"

This was posted on one of the state forums, but I think it bares repeating on this forum because I think it is very likely that this scenario happens frequently. Add to that the fact that servicable cars that could be used by less fortunate are being destroyed, it becomes questionable.
If I had two left feet, I wouldn't be able to walk straight. If I didn't blow my knee out, I might be in the NFL. If I was taller, I might be a baller. Not necessarily!!

See how stupid that sounds..That's how stupid your post was.
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