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There may have been some illegal abortions but no where as many as the number of abortions that have been performed after Roe vs Wade.
Some? There were a lot of abortions happening prior to Roe v Wade. Many were done in hospitals on married women. The D&C was a very common procedure and pregnancy tests were not done beforehand. As for single women -- who, incidentally had very limited access to birth control which was pretty much available only to married women -- there were known abortionists who often had some medical training. Some were doctors, some were nurses, some just picked up the skill. And then there were the hacks, the ones who had little skill and few proper instrument. There were a lot of abortions happening prior to Roe v Wade. A lot.
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yes thats right. no say whatsoever.
That is heartless. An innocent life has to be sacrificed so a woman doesn't have to suffer the inconvenience of an unwanted pregnancy. Sad world we live in.
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Some? There were a lot of abortions happening prior to Roe v Wade. Many were done in hospitals on married women. The D&C was a very common procedure and pregnancy tests were not done beforehand. As for single women -- who, incidentally had very limited access to birth control which was pretty much available only to married women -- there were known abortionists who often had some medical training. Some were doctors, some were nurses, some just picked up the skill. And then there were the hacks, the ones who had little skill and few proper instrument. There were a lot of abortions happening prior to Roe v Wade. A lot.
Was it the same number of abortions that are being performed today? I sincerely doubt that.
Ever since abortions became legal, abortions are viewed as nothing more than having a hangnail removed. By legalizing abortions, our nation has sent the message that abortions are acceptable means of birth control and that the life of the innocent baby is worthless. It sends the message that you can have all the fun you want without suffering any of the consequences for your actions.
I don't think this is true at all. I think the vast majority of women who undergo an abortion do so with great thought and a heavy heart. there will always be people who have values that are questionable. their sorry life is none of my business. on the other hand sometimes a well meaning person finds themselves in unexpected situation. they have the choice to choose what do do with their life. again not my business.
oh please. you think everyone should think like you? use your moral code to go through their life? so many reasons why "thinking twice" about having sex is a simplistic way of looking at this issue.
Males who impregnate a female are legally responsible for the care of that child until adulthood. I'm sure you would agree that an acceptable standard of accountability is being appied to them. So if a female also copulates resulting in pregnancy, why would she not also be responsible for the exact same action that the male is?
That is heartless. An innocent life has to be sacrificed so a woman doesn't have to suffer the inconvenience of an unwanted pregnancy. Sad world we live in.
lots and lots of very sad things in the world. a woman should have and they do have the right to govern their own bodies. no matter what "we" might think of her choice, it is hers to make
You: Are you actually implying that illegal abortions weren't done outside a hospital setting prior to Roe v. Wade?
Me: All abortions are performed in hospitals post Roe V. Wade?
Hmm, got a link or should we simply assume NARAL's propaganda is accurate?
If you have a link fine. Otherwise, I wasn't asking you anyway.
I asked you a question because your posts are pretty much unintelligible and I needed clarification on what point you were trying to make. I have no idea what you are talking about with that link request or that comment about NARAL propaganda. I didn't understand your babble when I first saw it in response to what the other poster said, I don't understand it now and I have no intentions of finding some link to ......something. I asked a question trying to sort out what you were saying and rather than answer it, you asked a totally meaningless question of me. And then the snark.
That'll teach me to try to make sense of your posts. That won't happen again.
Ever since abortions became legal, abortions are viewed as nothing more than having a hangnail removed. By legalizing abortions, our nation has sent the message that abortions are acceptable means of birth control and that the life of the innocent baby is worthless. It sends the message that you can have all the fun you want without suffering any of the consequences for your actions.
I don't think that the legalization has reduced abortion to the level of a hangnail. I mean really.... that's just not so. And while I will admit that I think some have used abortion too much as a way out of a situation.. it is still their body and more work should be done to prevent the pregnancy in the first place.
I'm not sending any message except that one should know what options their are for preventing a pregnancy, that abstinence is the only way to know for sure you won't get pregnant and that if you do get pregnant, you do have options. Of which, one is adoption... and yes, the other abortion. But, before abortion, or adoption for that matter, counseling should be provided.
I don't think this is true at all. I think the vast majority of women who undergo an abortion do so with great thought and a heavy heart. there will always be people who have values that are questionable. their sorry life is none of my business. on the other hand sometimes a well meaning person finds themselves in unexpected situation. they have the choice to choose what do do with their life. again not my business.
T4 existed because people felt ambivalent about it.
Males who impregnate a female are legally responsible for the care of that child until adulthood. I'm sure you would agree that an acceptable standard of accountability is being appied to them. So if a female also copulates resulting in pregnancy, why would she not also be responsible for the exact same action that the male is?
men are responsible after the baby is born and many men bail out on the responsibility. the woman is responsible and has the choice to govern her own body. many choose to terminate.
the reason why closing your legs is not an answer is that many people become pregnant while on birth control. they were doing everything possible to prevent getting pregnant end up pregnant. they should not have to have a baby if that was not their intention.
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