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Old 09-03-2009, 09:58 AM
 
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One last word about the late Senator Kennedy:

Rest In Peace Senator. Your life's work benefited millions.
The names on this wall are there because of the democrats Kennedy and Johnson..

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Old 09-03-2009, 10:22 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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How about remorse as well from Clinton regarding his bombing campaign and from Obama for all those poor Afghans and US soldiers

If you are going to rant, at least rant non partisan
To be fair, Bush got us in to Afghanistan.

Kennedy DID express remorse (watch "Teddy, In His Own Words") for his entire life. Clearly the guilt was eating at him for it to be published in the posthumous memoirs, he didn't have any reason to mention it if he didn't want.

Do you think Bush will talk about his drug and alcohol abuse when he writes his memoirs? What about Clinton and his sexual escapades? How about Bush 1 and all the shady things he probably did in his career with the CIA?

Give the man a break, it was 40 years ago and he clearly held the horror of that night with him for the entire time.
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:43 AM
 
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To be fair, Bush got us in to Afghanistan.

Kennedy DID express remorse (watch "Teddy, In His Own Words") for his entire life. Clearly the guilt was eating at him for it to be published in the posthumous memoirs, he didn't have any reason to mention it if he didn't want.

Do you think Bush will talk about his drug and alcohol abuse when he writes his memoirs? What about Clinton and his sexual escapades? How about Bush 1 and all the shady things he probably did in his career with the CIA?

Give the man a break, it was 40 years ago and he clearly held the horror of that night with him for the entire time.
Only Kennedy had some one killed by his own hands being on the wheel...keep on topic please!
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:11 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Only Kennedy had some one killed by his own hands being on the wheel...keep on topic please!
I was on topic. I was showing that Kennedy really expressed remorse for this horrible event. It was the major stain on his political career and he owned up to it. Clinton, Bush, Reagan and all the others made decisions that killed far more than just one woman. To judge Kennedy for something he spent 40 years making up for is pretty narrow-minded. I don't agree with him on the healthcare issue or some of the protectionist measures he supported, but he was a great man who was willing to side with his opponents when the leglisation was more important than partisan politics.
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:21 AM
 
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The names on this wall are there because of the democrats Kennedy and Johnson..

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u.s. military involvement in vietnam really got rolling under eisenhower. kennedy and johnson escalated it, and bear their share of the responsibility, but they didn't start it.

and i think you're getting senator kennedy mixed up with president kennedy.
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:59 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I was on topic. I was showing that Kennedy really expressed remorse for this horrible event. . . .
I've read that he couldn't even sleep in past 10 am the morning after killing the young woman.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:36 PM
 
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People who need to villify a dead man can expect the same treatment on their judgement day.
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Old 09-03-2009, 05:21 PM
 
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Clinton? How many U.S. soldiers died when Clinton stopped a genocide?

If you are going to rant, try backing it up with some facts.

Of course, rightwingers are fact averse
Your rants indicate that you are far too partisan for actual debate. Try opening your mind a little and basing your arguments on logic rather than hate
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Old 09-03-2009, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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u.s. military involvement in vietnam really got rolling under eisenhower. kennedy and johnson escalated it, and bear their share of the responsibility, but they didn't start it.

and i think you're getting senator kennedy mixed up with president kennedy.
Nixon had his contribution to Viet Nam, too.
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Old 09-03-2009, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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If he lied all his way to the grave...so be it, but to come out with a book days after being put to rest is making him such a hypocrite...this thread was never been written if he hadn't wait to bring this book and how he felt about the accident...till he died....He clearly calculated when the book had to come out so their is hidden agenda!
Oh, give it a rest!
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