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Assuming you are right.. what exactly in HR 3200 is Obama giving to classes of people.. beside the ability to PURCHASE a public option..
Do you object to the government taking someone's money for a service it provides in return.
HR 3200 doesn't "give" anything to any class of people. That "given" already exists in medicaid.. And as someone pointe dout you can't just cross the border and apply for medicaid.. a FREE that is in ESSENCe given to people who MEET a certain criteria.. if what you say held any merit.. it probably would have been before the court anyway.
The judge is right in one sense.. an illegal immigrant does have the right to purchase anything that anyone else has the righ to purchas.. including a private OR public insurance option.
I don't see a prior post from you. What post did I fail to answer?
What is HR 3200?
The judge was ask about Joe Wilson yelling "liar" or "that's a lie" or whatever he yelled. I didn't listen to the speech (well I tried, but I fell asleep, like Biden).
The judge said empahtically, "I cannot judge the Presidents heart", but, he continued, the President knows that the Federal government cannot deny coverage to one class of people if it provides it to another. And he went on to talk about the challenge to a California proposition that gave coverage to illegals, that the Supreme Court refused to hear. Which is the same thing as "they upheld it". In other words, illegals are covered.
The Supreme Court has already taken up this issue: By refusing to hear a case brought by opponets in CA. Result: The CA law stands (i.e. health care for illegals). It's the law.
Calworks...the way their getting around the welfare rule is the children. American children born of undocumented parents are entitled to welfare and the medicaid. The parents are not covered on the Medicaid, only the children, but of course they get the benefits of the checks.
* Illegal immigrants aren't entitled to welfare, called CalWORKs. But their citizen children are. Roughly 190,000 kids are receiving welfare checks that pass through their parents. The cost: about $500 million, according to the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office.
No body is arguing that illegals recieve health CARE.. no one can be refused when the walk into an ER seeking treatment.. and in those cases their IMMEDIATE..not long term needs must be met..
We're talking HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE with health reform.. and the ability to obtaion COMPREHENSIVE care..
Okay...just found this post:
It doesn't matter. The government cannot discriminate" based on class. If coverage is provided for one class, it must provide it for all.
Judge Napalotano is a Constitutional Attorney. I believe him. He is probably one of the best there is.
I don't see a prior post from you. What post did I fail to answer?
What is HR 3200?
The judge was ask about Joe Wilson yelling "liar" or "that's a lie" or whatever he yelled. I didn't listen to the speech (well I tried, but I fell asleep, like Biden).
The judge said empahtically, "I cannot judge the Presidents heart", but, he continued, the President knows that the Federal government cannot deny coverage to one class of people if it provides it to another. And he went on to talk about the challenge to a California proposition that gave coverage to illegals, that the Supreme Court refused to hear. Which is the same thing as "they upheld it". In other words, illegals are covered.
HR 3200 is the bill that the President was referring to last night. This is teh bill that passed House Comittee and that he was hoping would be voted o before August break. IT's the bill that was written and has sparked rumors of "death panels" and all that other nonsense that has been floating around for over a month.
HR 3200 is on the net for everyone to read. It is is the bill that has EVERY OBJECTIVE that Obama outlined last night.
THe one that he mentioned he will not allow to be killed.. but rather needs to be worked on and ironed out.
based on the law. Isn't the consensus here that illegals can purchase whatever they want? Well, they will purchase the cheaper govt. backed insurance plan, which in turn our tax dollars will back them up.
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