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No, since the "public option" as outlined by the President last night will have to be totally self-sufficient with funding coming from the premiums sold. They (illegal aliens) will also be ineligible for any subsidized plans.
outlined, you take it as gospel. You have a rude awakening coming when ALL of our taxes go up to fund this, which in turn funds the illegals.
Calworks...the way their getting around the welfare rule is the children. American children born of undocumented parents are entitled to welfare and the medicaid. The parents are not covered on the Medicaid, only the children, but of course they get the benefits of the checks.
* Illegal immigrants aren't entitled to welfare, called CalWORKs. But their citizen children are. Roughly 190,000 kids are receiving welfare checks that pass through their parents. The cost: about $500 million, according to the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office.
And this excellent point is excatly why I believe the anchor brat =citizenship crap needs to end .. deport the kids with the parents .. and do not allow citizenship
Are you claiming that illegals dont get to take part in medicare, medicade, social security etc?
Thats exactly what i'm saying..Illegal Immigrants can not LEGALLY receive Social Security. Illegal Immigrants can ONLY receive welfare if they have a qualifying child AND ONLY that CHILD will receive the medical benefits. In the case of Welfare AFDC and Foodstamps, the benefit will come in the childs name in care of the parent HOWEVER the parent of course will benefit from it. I'll save you the trouble of asking for proof.
The Supreme Court has already taken up this issue: By refusing to hear a case brought by opponets in CA. Result: The CA law stands (i.e. health care for illegals). It's the law.
Wrong, a STATE law can indeed be legal while a federal one indeed illegal, so while the Supreme Court refused to hear a case about a CA LAW, a national law is indeed a whole different ballpark..
outlined, you take it as gospel. You have a rude awakening coming when ALL of our taxes go up to fund this, which in turn funds the illegals.
First, I'm fine with my taxes going up (both personal and corporate) to fund health care EVEN for illegals ( I kept the Christian teachings of my youth while jettisoning the fairy tale aspects).
As pointed out, I pay roughly $1,000 per year to fund illegals and the uninsured right now, at least with the public plan and mandates, the risk pool will be widened further reducing my cost.
Now regarding your supposition, if you can point to something in any of the proposed legislations which would even imply such a scenario in the face of Sections entitled "Sec. 246. No Federal payment for undocumented aliens." to substantiate your claim. I'm half eared.
Thats exactly what i'm saying..Illegal Immigrants can not LEGALLY receive Social Security. Illegal Immigrants can ONLY receive welfare if they have a qualifying child AND ONLY that CHILD will receive the medical benefits. In the case of Welfare AFDC and Foodstamps, the benefit will come in the childs name in care of the parent HOWEVER the parent of course will benefit from it. I'll save you the trouble of asking for proof.
I hate to show your wrong again, but immigrants can indeed receive Social Security, in fact there was a class action lawsuit filed because the government was delaying the status of those who received it.
Even the Social Security website lists qualifications for non citizens to receive some benefits like SSI, Social Security Online - Immigration (social security Income) which include:
Noncitizens who have applied to become lawful permanent residents within four years from the date they began to receive SSI, as verified by the Department of Homeland Security; (which means that they can enter illegally, apply for SSI, and will continue to receive it for four years unless they apply to become a legal resident..)
They do not receive SS unless they pay into it, but illegal aliens can obtain a temporary tax numbers and use this number to pay into the program. I'll confess that its extremely rare, but it can and does happen. It wasnt that long ago that there was a big debate over them receive tax refunds for the earned income tax credits, (why many obtained the temporary tax numbers to begin with), I dont know if this loophole has been closed.
As for your statement about welfare, the requirements vary greatly state to state, as it should..
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