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Old 09-10-2009, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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According to Judge Andrew Napolitano, if the Federal government insures anyone it must also insure illegales.

He says that Obama knows this (or should). To not insure illegals would be unconstitutional, according to the law.

Therefore, Obama is either stupid (which I doubt) or he is lying. He wants you to believe that illegals will not be covered.
lol...well there ya have it.

Soo...just show us where it is in the Constitution.


~You're fighting really hard for illegal immigrants...who knew?
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:48 PM
 
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
According to Judge Andrew Napolitano, if the Federal government insures anyone it must also insure illegales.

He says that Obama knows this (or should). To not insure illegals would be unconstitutional, according to the law.

Therefore, Obama is either stupid (which I doubt) or he is lying. He wants you to believe that illegals will not be covered.

Oh Lawd, why do you people resite what someone else says before researching. I'll start you off with this homework assignment, medicare.
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:49 PM
 
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To not insure illegals would be unconstitutional
That seems factually incorrect. There is no general Constitutional requirement that programs enacted by Congress apply equally to citizens and noncitizens.
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:49 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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According to Judge Andrew Napolitano, if the Federal government insures anyone it must also insure illegales.

He says that Obama knows this (or should). To not insure illegals would be unconstitutional, according to the law.

Therefore, Obama is either stupid (which I doubt) or he is lying. He wants you to believe that illegals will not be covered.
You should know better nononsense, the libs here are ALL top notch lawyers, policy writers, university professors, congressmen/women, senators, SC judges and the best yet, personal friends of Obama! They will discredit Napalitano by saying he doesn't know what he's talking about,
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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According to Judge Andrew Napolitano, if the Federal government insures anyone it must also insure illegales.

He says that Obama knows this (or should). To not insure illegals would be unconstitutional, according to the law.

Therefore, Obama is either stupid (which I doubt) or he is lying. He wants you to believe that illegals will not be covered.

In HR 3200 there is a section that says that the ability of someone to PURCHASE insurance can not be discriminated against based on status.. etc.

That means that if someone is going to purchase the public option... or any PRIVATE option, they can not be told that they can't do so.

What is the objection to someone PURCHASING.. PAYING For their own coverage!

The OBJECTION is if they GET said coverage WITHOUT paying for it.

Remember.. both private insurance plans AND the Public option are NOT (and the public option WILL NOT) be taxpayer funded.. as Obama mentioned in his speech last night.

That being said.. yes. illegal immigrants will continue to get medical attention if they seek it in ERs etc.. as they do now. WHat they won't have is comprehensive coverage unless they purchase it like the rest of us!

That is, btw.. where the Republicans are drawing the whole illegals will be covered nonsense from. BUT what you first have to understand is that their ability to PURCHASE their own coverage privat eor public will not be thwarted. Public option is NOT free health insurance.. not at all!
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:51 PM
 
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Joe Wilson....is that YOU?...
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:52 PM
 
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Obama’s Health Care Speech | FactCheck.org
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Obama was correct when he said his plan wouldn’t insure illegal immigrants; the House bill expressly forbids giving subsidies to those who are in the country illegally. Conservative critics complain that the bill lacks an enforcement mechanism, but that hardly makes the president a liar.
PolitiFact | Joe Wilson of South Carolina said Obama lied, but he didn't
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:52 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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In HR 3200 there is a section that says that the ability of someone to PURCHASE insurance can not be discriminated against based on status.. etc.

That means that if someone is going to purchase the public option... or any PRIVATE option, they can not be told that they can't do so.

What is the objection to someone PURCHASING.. PAYING For their own coverage!

The OBJECTION is if they GET said coverage WITHOUT paying for it.

Remember.. both private insurance plans AND the Public option are NOT (and the public option WILL NOT) be taxpayer funded.. as Obama mentioned in his speech last night.

That being said.. yes. illegal immigrants will continue to get medical attention if they seek it in ERs etc.. as they do now. WHat they won't have is comprehensive coverage unless they purchase it like the rest of us!

That is, btw.. where the Republicans are drawing the whole illegals will be covered nonsense from. BUT what you first have to understand is that their ability to PURCHASE their own coverage privat eor public will not be thwarted. Public option is NOT free health insurance.. not at all!
How in the world can you believe anything he said last night without a single detail? It's not going to be paid for by taxes???? You have to be kidding me, how is it going to be paid for? Magic? Printing the money? How?
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:52 PM
 
Location: MI
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
According to Judge Andrew Napolitano, if the Federal government insures anyone it must also insure illegales.

He says that Obama knows this (or should). To not insure illegals would be unconstitutional, according to the law.

Therefore, Obama is either stupid (which I doubt) or he is lying. He wants you to believe that illegals will not be covered.
Please ask the judge for the names and ID of all of the illegal immigrants he knows that will come forth with proof of illegitimacies to get health care. That's one way to rid the country of these immigrants.
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:53 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TristansMommy View Post
In HR 3200 there is a section that says that the ability of someone to PURCHASE insurance can not be discriminated against based on status.. etc.

That means that if someone is going to purchase the public option... or any PRIVATE option, they can not be told that they can't do so.

What is the objection to someone PURCHASING.. PAYING For their own coverage!

The OBJECTION is if they GET said coverage WITHOUT paying for it.

Remember.. both private insurance plans AND the Public option are NOT (and the public option WILL NOT) be taxpayer funded.. as Obama mentioned in his speech last night.

That being said.. yes. illegal immigrants will continue to get medical attention if they seek it in ERs etc.. as they do now. WHat they won't have is comprehensive coverage unless they purchase it like the rest of us!

never mind that Trista...Today, last year, 10 years ago, someone just crossing the boarder CAN NOT go into the welfare office to apply for medicaid/medicare...Now maybe nonesense can answer the two part class quiz as to why? and if its illegal to restrict illegals from obtaining GOVERNMENT supplied medical coverage, why hasn't this reached the supreme court? tick tock
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