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I am not impressed, and neither should the president be, impressed, that is!
I'm sure he wouldn't be. So you are conceding that it is irrelevant to American law and the American Constitution whether a foreign country thinks any American citizen is also a citizen of their country?
In 1814 we took a little trip
Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip.
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans
And we caught the bloody British in the town of New Orleans.
[Chorus:]
We fired our guns and the British kept a'comin.
There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago.
We fired once more and they began to runnin' on
Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
We looked down the river and we see'd the British come.
And there must have been a hundred of'em beatin' on the drum.
They stepped so high and they made the bugles ring.
We stood by our cotton bales and didn't say a thing.
[Chorus]
Old Hickory said we could take 'em by surprise
If we didn't fire our muskets 'til we looked 'em in the eye
We held our fire 'til we see'd their faces well.
Then we opened up with squirrel guns and really gave 'em ... well
[Chorus]
Yeah, they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go.
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em
Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.**
We fired our cannon 'til the barrel melted down.
So we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round.
We filled his head with cannon balls, and powdered his behind
And when we touched the powder off, the gator lost his mind.
[Chorus]
Yeah, they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go.
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em
Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.**
Sorry, you are wrong. President Obama was born in the USA, making him an natual born American citzen. If he wanted dual citizenship he would have to be born in another country, get naturalized as a US Citizen then apply to his native land to retain his old citizenship. THAT is how it works. None of those things happened because he is a US Citizen and always has been, he is, thankfully, President of the United States of America.
Casper
Since when? Since this nation was formed, natural born and qualified.
No - I'm telling you that Obama isn't a natural born citizen of the U.S. because of our RESPONSE to British Law. Please post the rules that back up your wishfull thinking.
In 1814 we took a little trip
Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip.
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans
And we caught the bloody British in the town of New Orleans.
[Chorus:]
We fired our guns and the British kept a'comin.
There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago.
We fired once more and they began to runnin' on
Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
We looked down the river and we see'd the British come.
And there must have been a hundred of'em beatin' on the drum.
They stepped so high and they made the bugles ring.
We stood by our cotton bales and didn't say a thing.
[Chorus]
Old Hickory said we could take 'em by surprise
If we didn't fire our muskets 'til we looked 'em in the eye
We held our fire 'til we see'd their faces well.
Then we opened up with squirrel guns and really gave 'em ... well
[Chorus]
Yeah, they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go.
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em
Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.**
We fired our cannon 'til the barrel melted down.
So we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round.
We filled his head with cannon balls, and powdered his behind
And when we touched the powder off, the gator lost his mind.
[Chorus]
Yeah, they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go.
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em
Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.**
What the ??? Me thinks one should not drink and post on discussion boards.
Casper
Sorry, you are wrong. President Obama was born in the USA, making him an natual born American citzen. If he wanted dual citizenship he would have to be born in another country, get naturalized as a US Citizen then apply to his native land to retain his old citizenship. THAT is how it works. None of those things happened because he is a US Citizen and always has been, he is, thankfully, President of the United States of America.
Casper
That is incorrect. It really depends on the laws of the other country. However, most countries us descent as the basis of citizenship rather than place of birth. So, for example, if he was born in the US with a British born father or mother then he would automatically be a US citizen (due to place of birth) and a British citizen by descent. The same is true for nearly all European countries. You do not have to apply to the other country for citizenship because you had it in the first place.
Sorry, you are wrong. President Obama was born in the USA, making him an natual born American citzen. If he wanted dual citizenship he would have to be born in another country, get naturalized as a US Citizen then apply to his native land to retain his old citizenship. THAT is how it works. None of those things happened because he is a US Citizen and always has been, he is, thankfully, President of the United States of America.
Casper
Now, you're probably a good ole' Southern boy - Where is your sense of patriotic duty to your constitution?
Did you lose it somewhere in the Civil War? Nuthin' civil about it, if'n ya's ta ask me.
Dual citizenship? Isn't that something only people NOT BORN in this country get?
So was he lying THEN or is someone else lying NOW?
Not really, I was born in Rolla Missouri but was Anglo-American because my mother was from London, UK but my dad grew up in the Ozarks and went to the UK with the US Army Corps of Engineers to build bases for SAC in the early 1950s. Mom did not become a naturalized American citizen until I was 5 years old. So she still had a British passport and needed a visa to live and work in this nation. America treats me as a native born American because we recognize both soil and blood as factors in being a US citizen. According to US law in 1954, soil because I was born in Rolla MO and blood because my dad was born and grew up in Missouri. Britain also recognized until 1982 the same concepts of soil and blood hence the Anglo part. So I could have gone to a British consulate or Embassy made this declaration and gotten a British passport. Then turned in my American passport terminating US citizenship and simply went to my new homeland with no questions asked.
He was born on american soil.. That ALWAYS makes ANYONE, a "natural born citizen"...
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Originally Posted by ergohead
Since when?
I'll take your war of 1814, and trump you with the US Constitituion, 14th amendment, passed July 9th, 1868
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Yes, Osama Bin Laden himself could father a child here, and as long as the child pops out under american jurisidiction, the child would indeed be a US citizen..
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