will we have to have a draft (Iran, enemies, illegal)

[Randomdude]

Originally Posted by Chadro77

Supplying Equipment, supplies and money isn't fighting.

Russia and Britain would have been slaughtered without US equipment, money and supplies.

[Spot]

A draft would be a great idea. Particularly if the remove any deferments. I'd support it 100%.

[Spot]

Originally Posted by TheCaliforniaBear

If I got drafted I would never, ever cooperate. I would leave the country or something. Or I would just go to jail.

These "wars" the US is in are ridiculous. There's no way I would isk my life for these shamlessly corrupt missions. These "wars" are a major reason why the USAs econoy is in the gutter right now.

What exactly are we doing there in Afghanistan? Are we fighing terrorists? How? I would like to see, specifically what we are doing in Afghanistan that is so great.

I've heard Afghanistan is producing a lot of opium lately, in spite of the Taliban relinquishing control of their poppy fields Rather suspicious huh?

From the moment I saw the bombs dropping on Baghdad in 2003, I knew it was a stupid mistake. They can screw themselves if they think i'll join up with that.

And your sentiments on this matter are exactly why we need a draft. If more people had to sacrifice, there would be a lot more people showing up at the voting booth and voting against future wars.

[Wingfoot]

Originally Posted by floridasandy

i would like to see all members of congress drafted with no deferments. that is a draft that would take care of a lot of our problems.

And all members of their family down to 3rd cousin.twice removed.

[steve1282]

Originally Posted by TheCaliforniaBear

If I got drafted I would never, ever cooperate. I would leave the country or something. Or I would just go to jail.

These "wars" the US is in are ridiculous. There's no way I would isk my life for these shamlessly corrupt missions. These "wars" are a major reason why the USAs econoy is in the gutter right now.

What exactly are we doing there in Afghanistan? Are we fighing terrorists? How? I would like to see, specifically what we are doing in Afghanistan that is so great.

I've heard Afghanistan is producing a lot of opium lately, in spite of the Taliban relinquishing control of their poppy fields Rather suspicious huh?

From the moment I saw the bombs dropping on Baghdad in 2003, I knew it was a stupid mistake. They can screw themselves if they think i'll join up with that.

Coming from the military your statement makes u seem like a scumbag. Its service to your country regardless if u agree with it. If u did go to war and saved some ones life just think they would have died if u didnt go. Its not about u its helping ur fellow Americans

[steve1282]

Originally Posted by chielgirl

Steve, you're always welcome to move over to active duty.
You can also join the Army outright.

No thanks u make more money on deployments in the national guard and im a police officer so id lose money going active

[mossomo]

Originally Posted by Nativechief

With all of the need for extra men that our generals are calling

#1 The Preface - The Second Iraq War is won (no thanks to defeatists and cut-and-runners). Troops and equipment are leaving the country.

#2 - The US's fighting strength in Afghanistan is pathetic. We only had ~36,000 soldiers deployed Jan 1, '09. In Feb 09 we added 17,000 more. Total US armed services deployed in Afghani is ~53,000. The USA's standing armed forces total ~1,450,000. 53K is hardly a drop in the bucket of ~1.5M.

for I wonder if a draft will be the only way to get the men? They did it during veit Nam you know....

#3 - They did it because we didnt have a professional army. We do now over a million strong.

We cant win the "war"

#4 - Fine lose; only losers lose. You are of the like of the defeatists and cut-and-runners I mentioned in #1.

not a real war either

#5 - Because you believe 9-11 was "an inside job". Or you believe that the 9-11 attacks did not deserve reprisal, that we shouldn't have faced off with the Taliban and Al Qeuda in Afghanistan.

if we dont have the men, Have all of you 18 to 26 year olds registered yet..Its the law you know....

#6 - We're fine. It's all in your head.

Bush got us in so deep...

#7 - Tired, find a new mantra.

IOUAE(Y) - now do your part please

[Huckleberry3911948]

we cant affort blackwater (40% o the war budget) draft is the answer.

[TheCaliforniaBear]

Originally Posted by steve1282

Coming from the military your statement makes u seem like a scumbag. Its service to your country regardless if u agree with it. If u did go to war and saved some ones life just think they would have died if u didnt go. Its not about u its helping ur fellow Americans

If they sent me to Afghanistan I would just smoke up all the opium in that country and chill

Seriously, these Middle-East operations are total BS. We are not there for any noble purpose whatsoever. It's all just shady. Fighting terror and liberating the people are BS excuses for why we are really there.

[bigskydude]

Originally Posted by Nativechief

With all of the need for extra men that our generals are calling for I wonder if a draft will be the only way to get the men? They did it during veit Nam you know....We cant win the "war" <not a real war either , if we dont have the men, Have all of you 18 to 26 year olds registered yet..Its the law you know....Bush got us in so deep Obama may not have a choise.

We were in Vietnam how many years? and how many young men died?

I don't think a draft is the answer to political war.

Now if indeed this was a "real" war and not just some penis waving contest, then I might be in favor of a draft, but since Iraq and Afganistan are being henpecked to death by politics (like Vietnam was) ... we should bring our troops home and save them for something a little more worthwhile ... like maybe .. a genuine threat to the United States or something like that.

American soldiers should be fighting for our freedom ... let someone else fight for theirs ...