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Old 11-16-2009, 01:09 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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think about it:

A handful of selfish self-centered gays who would much rather see services to the poor and assistance for parentless children destroyed than allow a church to adhear to their values, beliefs and the teachings of the Bible. In their desire to push themselves onto everyone and into everything I believe all they will accomplish is more disgust from people.
what would you do if YOUR family could not legally obtain the same rights that are granted ALL hetro families the second that they get married? It is not selfish to want to take care of one's own. If the catholics don't want to render to the poor b/c they don't want gay ppl spoiling their "squeaky clean" reputation , another organization will step in.

Marriage is a CIVIL right, not a religious one. If the catholics and the mormons choose to be hateful, I really don't care! It doesn't affect me one way or the other. But when they use their profits from their tax exempt status to deny gays and lesbian families their civil rights, that is something that is terribly un-Christian. I don't think that JC would approve.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:13 PM
 
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I didn't see anything about "hating gays" in that article.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:23 PM
 
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what would you do if YOUR family could not legally obtain the same rights that are granted ALL hetro families the second that they get married? It is not selfish to want to take care of one's own. If the catholics don't want to render to the poor b/c they don't want gay ppl spoiling their "squeaky clean" reputation , another organization will step in.

Marriage is a CIVIL right, not a religious one. If the catholics and the mormons choose to be hateful, I really don't care! It doesn't affect me one way or the other. But when they use their profits from their tax exempt status to deny gays and lesbian families their civil rights, that is something that is terribly un-Christian. I don't think that JC would approve.

There is not one person in this country that does not have the same rights to marry someone of the opposit sex so we ALL have the same rights. Not all marriages are based on love.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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what would you do if YOUR family could not legally obtain the same rights that are granted ALL hetro families the second that they get married? It is not selfish to want to take care of one's own. If the catholics don't want to render to the poor b/c they don't want gay ppl spoiling their "squeaky clean" reputation , another organization will step in.

Marriage is a CIVIL right, not a religious one. If the catholics and the mormons choose to be hateful, I really don't care! It doesn't affect me one way or the other. But when they use their profits from their tax exempt status to deny gays and lesbian families their civil rights, that is something that is terribly un-Christian. I don't think that JC would approve.
This is the most absurd thing I have yet read. As if it were the church who actually has the power to decide who can legally marry and who can't.

And it's really pathetic how gays and other liberals freely toss around that word "hate", making accusations that __________ (fill in the blank) is "hateful" when it is they who hate.

It isn't "hateful" for a church to adhere to its cherished beliefs and tenets.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Boise
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It is mentioned in the article.

More to the point......why make the title of this thread, "Hating gays is more important than helping the needy" when my point is that the Catholic Church has not institutionalized any hatred of gays into their tenets or policies. If you are looking for a church with a real hatred of gays, the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka KS is the place to go.
here is where it gets sticky with hate.. they don't believe in homosexuality..
we get it.. but the reality is it's like not believing in green eyes, on the premis that you chose your eye color while in the womb.

That's the kind of beliefs we're talking about here.. where dogma meets rationality... and they want to have everyone be tolerant of their BELIEFS..
the only people choosing anything in this situation is people choosing those beliefs.. as a gay person I can tell you that i did not choose to be gay.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:36 PM
 
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And it's really pathetic how gays and other liberals freely toss around that word "hate", making accusations that __________ (fill in the blank) is "hateful" when it is they who hate.
Not all gays do that.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:52 PM
 
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here is where it gets sticky with hate.. they don't believe in homosexuality..
we get it.. but the reality is it's like not believing in green eyes, on the premis that you chose your eye color while in the womb.

That's the kind of beliefs we're talking about here.. where dogma meets rationality... and they want to have everyone be tolerant of their BELIEFS..
the only people choosing anything in this situation is people choosing those beliefs.. as a gay person I can tell you that i did not choose to be gay.

Are you saying that gays have no power, no choice in their own lives and act solely with no will of their own?

Eye color and homosexuality? LOL
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:09 PM
 
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No, its called principle and belief in something greater than you. Just because you can't decipher what that means, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

This thread, of course, coming from someone who not only promotes choice, but financially supports and promotes the literal act of abortion. So why am I not surprised that you don't understand the principle of principle? Because in your world, nothing is out of bounds. Promote abortion, promote man/man - woman/woman sex, chastise those who see humanity in decline. Horrendous.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:35 PM
 
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Are you saying that gays have no power, no choice in their own lives and act solely with no will of their own?

Eye color and homosexuality? LOL
There's a difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior. Obviously, we choose to behave certain ways, but sexual orientation is innate.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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Not all gays do that.
The word "all" wasn't in my post. So, please don't assume that my statement was a brush to tar all of them with. There are some gay CD members who just can't get it through their heads that churches that stand by their principles are not being "hateful" to them ("hate" has nothing to do with it).......or else they just want to keep the pot stirred by making bogus accusations. (I think many of them just want to keep the pot stirred.) Whatever their motivation, it is clear that those who make these accusations of "hatred" are, themselves, filled with hate for those institutions that refuse to go along with the gay agenda.
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