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As opposed to those that pay attention to only the OTHER HALF of the facts to justify their denial of a raise?
Even unemployment pay was given a raise - PLUS several extensions.
In addition, the first $2,400 of benefits has been made tax exempt.
First $2,400 of Unemployment Benefits Tax Free for 2009 (http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=205633,00.html - broken link)
Ken
So you are saying that the raise is justified because of those people that still have jobs, their pay increased and all of the people that don't have jobs got a raise in the form of unemployment benefits? Sorry, that just doesn't make any sense.
If the economy is hurting that bad that the OVERALL taxable income was REDUCED across the country, which it was regardless of your rationalizing, then nobody in the government should get a raise.
You are skewing facts and playing numbers games to rationalize these raises. Once taxes are filed in April, we will see that the taxable income will be way down. Will you still be able to justify these ridiculous raises then?
So you are saying that the raise is justified because of those people that still have jobs, their pay increased and all of the people that don't have jobs got a raise in the form of unemployment benefits? Sorry, that just doesn't make any sense.
If the economy is hurting that bad that the OVERALL taxable income was REDUCED across the country, which it was regardless of your rationalizing, then nobody in the government should get a raise.
You are skewing facts and playing numbers games to rationalize these raises. Once taxes are filed in April, we will see that the taxable income will be way down. Will you still be able to justify these ridiculous raises then?
Absolutely - more than EVER in fact.
When NO ONE else is spending, it's up to the government to do so to stimulate the economy.
Who's bragging about it?
Not me.
I'm simply stating the fact that MOST workers are STILL getting raises - and THAT'S a FACT.
Should they be getting raises when other people in THEIR company are being laid off? Maybe not - but THAT is a decision the managers of those PRIVATE companies made - and it has nothing to do with whether or not Federal Employees get raises or not so your argument is total nonsense.
Ken
Since the economy is DIRECTLY tied to the actions of various government entities, yes it does make sense.
Companies suffering due to the economic slowdown for the most part had no direct impact on causing the decline... yet their work load has become vulnerable to an involitale economic climate.
Like I said before, if the overall taxable income has declined for 2009, your entire argument is going to look completely idiotic. (P.S. it will).
Who's bragging about it?
Not me.
I'm simply stating the fact that MOST workers are STILL getting raises - and THAT'S a FACT.
Should they be getting raises when other people in THEIR company are being laid off? Maybe not - but THAT is a decision the managers of those PRIVATE companies made - and it has nothing to do with whether or not Federal Employees get raises or not so your argument is total nonsense.
Ken
They are getting a raise at the cost of someone else losing their job and thats a fact
Aint no maybe NOT ,how would you feel if you were fired so someone else can get a raise to do your job and theirs and save money on labor? Thought democrats cared about the people and wanted to be fair
It has all to do with why federal employees should NOT be getting a raise
No your attempt for a defense of this is sickening it really is
I give up you've proven you care more about federal employees
My company sucks because the economy has slowed down so tremendously that we have just enough work to avoid layoffs?
You must work for the government with your blatent ignorance to management and fiscal planning.
No your company sucks because they haven't given raises in TWO years (as you said so yourself). THIS year I can understand it - the previous year - no - not unless it doesn't give out raises until the very END of the year. I don't know ANYONE who didn't get a raise LAST YEAR. Yes we were in a recession, but most companies were running more or less normally until the meltdown in September of 2008 - at which point panic set in. Prior to that - not so much.
Absolutely - more than EVER in fact.
When NO ONE else is spending, it's up to the government to do so to stimulate the economy.
Ken
Here is an Idea give the public back their money instead of giving it to federal employees and watch people spend. Kinda hard to spend when you have no job. So give that citizen say 10k and see how much they spend even if paying for bills.
It cost us over what 240k per job we have created. Wouldnt it make more sense to just give all adults say 10k.Wanna bet those without a job would pay bills or buy things that would in turn mean a business would have to hire to keep up with the new demands
NO you would rather give federal employees a raise
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