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View Poll Results: Should GLBT History Be Taught in Public Schools?
Yes 55 30.90%
No 123 69.10%
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:17 PM
 
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No, their history is not the same as the Civil Rights movement. To say teaching math, science etc. is more important than teaching the history of the GLBT community is not radical. Clearly it is a hot button topic for you, many people have them and believe they are the most important thing in the world, they usually are not. Your hot button issue falls into this category.
Yes, their history is the same. I'll leave it at that and say no more about this, and you can draw whatever conclusions you like and are satisfied with.

 
Old 12-12-2009, 11:22 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Yes, their history is the same. I'll leave it at that and say no more about this, and you can draw whatever conclusions you like and are satisfied with.
It REALLY is the most important thing in the world!
 
Old 12-12-2009, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Why teach it. I don't see what value it adds. Why not teach the history of sailing or the history of heterosexuals or the history of basketball. In the order of priorities of things to teach our kids this seems rather low on the list.
Yeah you're right. We should stop teaching about the history of civil rights. What a waste of time when they could be learning math and science. Who cares about Martin Luther King anyway?
 
Old 12-12-2009, 11:29 PM
 
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Most of us on this forum are Americans, and we share that common bond. But the question is: How much do we differentiate, and how important should those differences be?

I actually don't think it's essential that gay history be taught, but I do think it would be good to teach kids that there are historical figures who happened to be gay.
 
Old 12-12-2009, 11:31 PM
 
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This argument is very similar to arguments that were made about blacks for years. The anti-black crowd would say: Why would anyone need to learn about black history? What have they contributed to society?

Sexual orientation is part of who we are, and it shapes how we experience our lives, for better and for worse. Those who say that it's irrelevant either don't understand or are in denial about it.
Or hate us for it.
 
Old 12-12-2009, 11:38 PM
 
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Or hate us for it.
Well, I've been here long enough to know that most of the posters don't hate gays. But the idea that the word "gay" shouldn't even be uttered in a classroom - as some appear to be suggesting - seems ridiculous to me.
 
Old 12-12-2009, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Yeah you're right. We should stop teaching about the history of civil rights. What a waste of time when they could be learning math and science. Who cares about Martin Luther King anyway?
Interesting you, as the poster before you, conflate two different historical issues. I understand the attempt, try to attach yourself to a huge historical movement. Teaching about the Civil rights Movement simply isn't the same as teaching about the history of GLTB.
 
Old 12-12-2009, 11:46 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Interesting you, as the poster before you, conflate two different historical issues. I understand the attempt, try to attach yourself to a huge historical movement. Teaching about the Civil rights Movement simply isn't the same as teaching about the history of GLTB.

the gay and lesbian movement is not THE civil rights movement, but a movement that sprang out of the AA civil rights movement, which owed to mahatma ghandi's non-violent resistance. every civil rights movement in history owes a great debt to the one(s) that came before it. MLK took his ideas directly from Ghandi. watch the movie "ghandi" and you'll see what i mean. likewise, the gaycivil rights movement owes a huge debt to the AA civil rights movement that preceded it. hopefully, as a country and a ppl, we PROGRESS.
 
Old 12-12-2009, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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the gay and lesbian movement is not THE civil rights movement, but a movement that sprang out of the AA civil rights movement, which owed to mahatma ghandi's non-violent resistance. every civil rights movement in history owes a great debt to the one(s) that came before it. MLK took his ideas directly from Ghandi. watch the movie "ghandi" and you'll see what i mean. likewise, the gaycivil rights movement owes a huge debt to the AA civil rights movement that preceded it. hopefully, as a country and a ppl, we PROGRESS.
Fine, many movements can claim the same legacy. I don't think it is necessary to teach the history of every aggrieved group in the country, it would leave little time to teach anything else.
 
Old 12-12-2009, 11:58 PM
 
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the gay and lesbian movement is not THE civil rights movement, but a movement that sprang out of the AA civil rights movement, which owed to mahatma ghandi's non-violent resistance. every civil rights movement in history owes a great debt to the one(s) that came before it. MLK took his ideas directly from Ghandi. watch the movie "ghandi" and you'll see what i mean. likewise, the gaycivil rights movement owes a huge debt to the AA civil rights movement that preceded it. hopefully, as a country and a ppl, we PROGRESS.
The GLBT movement and the Civil Rights movement technically occurred at the same time, which is why gay rights is inherently part of Civil Rights/Civil Rights history.
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