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Old 12-23-2009, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It would be cheaper for us (the taxpayers footing the bill) if his family came to the White House rather then us paying for umpteen secret service people, Michelle Obama's 30 assistants and Airforce 1 transporting everyone to Hawaii.

The President should realize we are facing hard times and NOT take advantage of our tax dollars for recreational purposes. If he was paying for this trip with personal funds entirely, then of course, he can go where he pleases.

President Obama, if ANY elected official should, should adopt the responsible fiscal posture that Congressman Ron Paul has always had which is to not spend a penny of the taxpayers' money unless it is absolutely necessary.
What a joke! You think those people could descend on DC w/o the cost of the security?
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Old 12-23-2009, 08:59 PM
 
Location: SC
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And do you think WE would be better off financially if he stayed home for Christmas? It's a serious question and you really should think about it before saying "yes".
Why doesn't he WANT to stay at the White House for Christmas? If it was your first year as President wouldn't you want to stay in one of the most gorgeous residences in the country?

I think we would all be better off finanically if he, and other government elites would STOP their traveling the globe and start doing business like most of the private sector does via Webinars and the telephone and internet. At least it would show a little respect to us taxpayers( who after all the President is supposed to be serving -- NOT the other way around). And YES I think we would all be a lot better off if the fancy travel ended along with all the new and totally unnecessary government programs designed with one purpose in mind-- to control the American people and to separate them from their money. Isn't this the president that is expecting us to foot the bill for global warming? If so, you'd think he might not further hurt the environoment with caravaans of SUV's and jet fuel exhaust that is emitted every time he goes on one of his trips. If he really practiced what he preached he'd be walking or taking public transportation.

Every president beginning with the current one, should follow Congressman Ron Paul's example of complete fiscal responsibility. He never even uses his entire budget. President Obama should be at least as conscientious about his spending our tax dollars as that, if not MORE so, considering the worsening deficit, worsening unemployment, worsening housing market-- like we haven't seen since the GREAT DEPRESION!

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Old 12-23-2009, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Why doesn't he WANT to stay at the White House for Christmas? If it was your first year as President wouldn't you want to stay in one of the mosst gorgeous residences in the country?

I think we would all be better off finanically if he, and other government elites would STOP their traveling the globe and start doing business like most of the private sector does via Webinars and the telephone and internet. At least it would show a little respect to us taxpayers( who after all the President is supposed to be serving -- NOT the other way around). And YES I think we would all be a lot better off if the fancy travel ended along with all the new and totally unnecessary government programs designed with one purpose in mind-- to control the American people and to separate them from their money. Every president beginning with the current one, should follow Congressman Ron Paul's example of complete fiscal responsibility. He never even uses his entire budget. President Obama should be at least as conscientious about his spending our tax dollars as that.
Why do you care where he spends Christmas? Ron Paul is a grandstander.
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Old 12-23-2009, 09:03 PM
 
Location: just here
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Why doesn't he WANT to stay at the White House for Christmas? If it was your first year as President wouldn't you want to stay in one of the mosst gorgeous residences in the country?

I think we would all be better off finanically if he, and other government elites would STOP their traveling the globe and start doing business like most of the private sector does via Webinars and the telephone and internet. At least it would show a little respect to us taxpayers( who after all the President is supposed to be serving -- NOT the other way around). And YES I think we would all be a lot better off if the fancy travel ended along with all the new and totally unnecessary government programs designed with one purpose in mind-- to control the American people and to separate them from their money. Every president beginning with the current one, should follow Congressman Ron Paul's example of complete fiscal responsibility. He never even uses his entire budget. President Obama should be at least as conscientious about his spending our tax dollars as that.
Last I saw, no one was controlling me. Why is it the big bad government is controlling you I wonder? And Ron Paul...yes, it would be fun to see what exactly Ron Paul would stick to when he actually would become president, wouldn't it?
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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You sure about that?

Afghanistan escalation
No attempt to overturn "don't ask don't tell"
No attempt to overturn defense of marriage act
No real support for a public option (I never campaigned on that)
No closing of Gitmo
Fought release of torture photos
TARP

Seems pretty Republican to me.
I know!
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:04 PM
 
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As long as he is paying for this out of his own pocket and not the taxpayer's I couldn't care less. The further he is away from D.C. the better. I suspect the Secret Service on his detail will enjoy the warm weather as well.

Let him keep jetting about and spending money. Each unneccessary trip serves as another example of his elitist hypocrisy when it comes to his arguments about "climate change" and wasteful spending.
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:49 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Why do you care where he spends Christmas? Ron Paul is a grandstander.
He is a fiscally responsible grandstander.

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Last I saw, no one was controlling me. Why is it the big bad government is controlling you I wonder? And Ron Paul...yes, it would be fun to see what exactly Ron Paul would stick to when he actually would become president, wouldn't it?
Yes, it would be fun to see Ron Paul as President. The office needs a smart man.
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Do you approve of or resent his luxurious $4K/day vacation digs in Hawaii?

I approve!

Enjoy a peaceful, restful vacation with your family, Mr President.

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Old 12-24-2009, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Did YOU?
I'm not whining now or then, however you are.
Sorry you have a black, democratic for president.
Get over it.
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:50 AM
 
Location: SC
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Last I saw, no one was controlling me. Why is it the big bad government is controlling you I wonder? And Ron Paul...yes, it would be fun to see what exactly Ron Paul would stick to when he actually would become president, wouldn't it?
Ron Paul has a 30 year PROVEN TRACK RECORD of not just talking the talk. HE ACTUALLY WALKS THE WALK. So I would expect he would stick to just about everything just as he has year after year as a Congressman.

President Obama on the other hand is the first President we've ever had who so BLATENTLY does just the opposite of what he promises. For starters, he took an oath to uphold the Constitution.

He promised transparency and the ability of Americans to be able to review for one week every bill being considered for passage by Congress. What has he done instead? His administration has forced through Congress a COMPLETELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL health care bill that forces us to buy health insurance. And not only was it not made available to Americans to read and scruitinize, the only way it would pass was for futher provisions of the Constitutions to be broken such as the law of uniformity--that all federal taxes are the same for all states yet Nevada worked out a deal so 49 states will have to pay for Medicare for Nevada residents and Nevada doesn't have to pay a DIME. This unconstitutional deal was the only way the Nevada Senator would vote in favor of the bill.

Don't tell me you "supporters" of the President are OK with not following the Constitution. If Obama can make you buy healthcare. What else can he force you to buy?
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