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Old 05-23-2010, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Justice Gray in Wong Kim Ark v. U.S. (1898):


"A child whose father's father (paternal grandfather) was born within the British dominions is a natural-born British subject, even though the child's father and the child himself were not born within the British dominions."

We can use English Common Law if you want.
Yep. It's called dual citizenship.

 
Old 05-23-2010, 05:59 PM
 
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Beyond his book stating that he was born in Kapiolani; he has made that concession in SPEECHES he has given, we have the testimony of Mrs. Nordyke who remembers Barack being born at Kapiolani where her twins were born and its supported that he was born at Kapiolani because of his Certificate number <snip>
False.

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Testimony of Mrs. Nordyke:
"She did not know Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, while they were in labor together on Aug. 4, 1961, at the old Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital."
Twin sisters, Obama on parallel paths for years | The Honolulu Advertiser | Hawaii's Newspaper


“My daughters’ birth certificates were 10637 and 10638, and Obama’s was 10641, so his mother must have come in after I did,” Nordyke said, though she never met Obama’s mother."
"Nordkye said she doesn’t know who Obama’s mother’s doctor was, but only five obstetricians were at the hospital at the time, she said."
Woman's hospital memories contradict "birthers" | The Daily Republic | Mitchell, South Dakota


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Unfortunately for you, we have first hand testimonies; you have nothing but hearsay.
LOL!
You have nothing but hearsay.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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You have nothing but hearsay.
Actually... you really do need to look up those Federal Rules of Evidence and figure out what "hearsay" really means.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 06:02 PM
 
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False.
did i state that she met Mrs. Obama... nice that you can't even comprehend what is posted





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LOL!
You have nothing but hearsay.
Uh no,
we have official statements (that isn't considered hearsay)
we have the COLB (which is first hand evidence)
we have Newspaper birth announcement (that isn't hearsay)



You need to look up what hearsay is.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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They didn't. They used the Common law definition of natural born subjects/ citizens.

Are you sure?

Justice Gray in Wong Kim Ark v. U.S. (1898):


"A child whose father's father (paternal grandfather) was born within the British dominions is a natural-born British subject, even though the child's father and the child himself were not born within the British dominions."
 
Old 05-23-2010, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Are you sure?

Justice Gray in Wong Kim Ark v. U.S. (1898):


"A child whose father's father (paternal grandfather) was born within the British dominions is a natural-born British subject, even though the child's father and the child himself were not born within the British dominions."
As previously stated, it's called dual citizenship, and several other presidents have had it.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 06:10 PM
 
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That is because British law allowed it, and the US allows one to have dual, triple or as many citizenship. Doesn't affect, however, the natural born citizenship status of a US citizen.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 06:11 PM
 
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As previously stated, it's called dual citizenship, and several other presidents have had it.

Including Thomas Jefferson, who before becoming our 3rd President, became a French Citizen, voluntarily (he was the ambassador to France for years before returning to America)
 
Old 05-23-2010, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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;14305343]Are you sure?
Of course.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DraggingCanoe
"A child whose father's father (paternal grandfather) was born within the British dominions is a natural-born British subject, even though the child's father and the child himself were not born within the British dominions."
And how do you think that differs from American law? Exactly?
 
Old 05-23-2010, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Morse Citizenship: native, native citizen: Those born in a country of parents who are citizens.
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