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[SIZE=2]REPORTING THE BIRTH[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]A Consular Report of Birth can be prepared only at an American consular office overseas while the child is under the age of 18. Usually, in order to establish the child’s citizenship under the appropriate provisions of U.S. law, the following documents must be submitted:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2](1) an official record of the child’s foreign birth;
(2) evidence of the parent(s)’ U.S. citizenship (e.g., a certified birth certificate, current U.S.
passport, or Certificate of Naturalization or Citizenship);
(3) evidence of the parents’ marriage, if applicable; and
(4) affidavits of parent(s)’ residence and physical presence in the United States.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]In certain cases, it may be necessary to submit additional documents, including affidavits of paternity and support, divorce decrees from prior marriages, or medical reports of blood compatibility. All evidentiary documents should be certified as true copies of the originals by the registrar of the office wherein each document was issued. A service fee of $65 is prescribed under the provisions of Title 22 of the Code of Federal Regulations, Section 22.1, item 9, for a Consular Report of Birth.r[/SIZE]
That appears to be unclear. There is a record of a divorce. There doesn't seem to be a record of a marriage. Perhaps common law marriage would cover this, perhaps not.
The marriage date, etc., is documented in the divorce papers.
The preponderance of historical authoritative publishings on the matter concur with the article in the New Englander and Yale Review, "...the term 'natural born citizen' is used, and excludes all persons owing allegiance by birth to foreign states..."
we keep going around on this one. your stuck on the " all persons " part. from what i have seen ( including the stuff you've posted ) the US considers diplomats and invading armies to " owing allegiance " to a foreign state..... not the child of one or more immigrant parent.
The preponderance of historical authoritative publishings on the matter concur with the article in the New Englander and Yale Review, "...the term 'natural born citizen' is used, and excludes all persons owing allegiance by birth to foreign states..."
To beat that dead horse once again. The fact that Obama's father was not a citizen doe NOT mean Obama owed "allegiance by birth to foreign states" That means children of foreign diplomats.
we keep going around on this one. your stuck on the " all persons " part. from what i have seen ( including the stuff you've posted ) the US considers diplomats and invading armies to " owing allegiance " to a foreign state..... not the child of one or more immigrant parent.
We keep going around and around and around on this whole damn thread...
The state of Hawaii has no bearing on this. The fact remains that she was right on the fringe of the 5 years after attaining the age of 14. This law does not apply to diplomats, military personal or anyone that is a government employee abroad. The rule does apply folks working for private firms, the Peace Core, etc.
You cannot obtain the long form online. You have to go to the Hawian Dept. of Vital records offices in Honalulu and request it in person. Bama was there, why did he not request it?
Why has he not released his application records for Havard? Those records would have a copy of his long form cert.
Remember, only in 2007 did the Hawian govt. start using the short form. I am sure Bama has a copy of it somewhere. He would have needed it for a variety of reasons prior to 2007.
What could he possibly be hiding?
There is no "long form." He has satisfied the the 51 election commissions that decide eligibility. That's all there is to do. You don't matter.
President Obama has already done that. Every state election commission has the obligation to establish that candidates are qualified. I presume Arizona did this. Their bigger problem was McCain's citizenship.
title 8 > chapter 12 > subchapter iii > part i > § 1401(d)
a person born outside of the united states and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the united states who has been physically present in the united states or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the united states;
This has been explained before in this thread, but here we go again... this is the law that would have applied at the time:
Quote:
Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.
Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad - U.S. Department of State (http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html - broken link)
The marriage date, etc., is documented in the divorce papers.
As I said, there appears to be a record of divorce, but no record of the marriage. Marriages are typically recorded as part of a state's vital statistics.
It's doesn't see to be an important point. The President's birth certificate indicates he was born in Hawaii. That makes him a citizen qualified to be president.
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