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Afghanistan was the home of the Taliban who assisted/trained those who attacked us on 9/11. That said I do not think Afghanistan is a winnable war either. We should pull our troops out and bring them home.
Don't you know that republicans are memory deficient? They are hypocritical and history revisionist to the max. They are only concerned with getting the black guy out of office.
Ahh, there it is again. That handy little racecard. Let me ask... do they hand those out with your Democrat card or are they part of the same card? Like one side is the race card, flip it over and there's your dem card?
It's my opinion that one of the big reasons for Bush's huge drop in favorability among voters was his lack of fiscal conservancy. Why do you think the GOP is currently in a complete state of disarray? A lot of that has to do with the fact that conservatives feel they were duped by the past administration. Hence, the popularity of the tea party movement.
One of the justifications for invading Iraq was to "spread Democracy" in the region. How many Democracies have came into being since Bush invaded Iraq? Not to mention the entire reason he wanted to spread democracy was to protect the flow of oil from the region.
I love when Bush Sr. said "And I'm the one who will not raise taxes. My opponent now says he'll raise them as a last resort, or a third resort. But when a politician talks like that, you know that's one resort he'll be checking into. My opponent, my opponent won't rule out raising taxes. But I will. And the Congress will push me to raise taxes and I'll say no. And they'll push, and I'll say no, and they'll push again, and I'll say, to them, ‘Read my lips: no new taxes.’"
Bush used 9/11 to justify invading Iraq. Any patriotic American should have been outraged. Bush lost approval because Americans wised up to the man. They came to learn he was a liar. Especially on the main issue at the time, Iraq. Bush was saying one thing while reality stated another. Factor in his lack of response to Katrina, torturing detainees, devaluation of the dollar, collapse of the economy. The man was a plague on America.
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Ahh, there it is again. That handy little racecard. Let me ask... do they hand those out with your Democrat card or are they part of the same card? Like one side is the race card, flip it over and there's your dem card?
It's my opinion that one of the big reasons for Bush's huge drop in favorability among voters was his lack of fiscal conservancy. Why do you think the GOP is currently in a complete state of disarray? A lot of that has to do with the fact that conservatives feel they were duped by the past administration. Hence, the popularity of the tea party movement.
W expanded the Federal Government more than any President before him. Bush also doubled the Federal debt. The cumulative debt of the United States under Bush in the last 8 completed fiscal years was approximately $4.3 trillion, or about 43% of the total national debt of ~$10.0 trillion as of September 2008. Where were the tea partiers then? I guess if Obama were a white Republican there would be no tea parties.
Totally agree with your last statement. They were waiting to be told what to do, by someone who also knew that to be true and took advantage of it.
it's my opinion that one of the big reasons for Bush's huge drop in favorability among voters was his lack of fiscal conservancy.
why did he win in 04 then? he still had tons of supporters, socially. and then the neos.. fox backed him, they didnt slam him one bit no one knew how we pay for that war, but they knew its us whos paying. but partisan ppl didnt give adamn. voting for someone based on war is stupid he could do one thing in war and fail at everything else
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Why do you think the GOP is currently in a complete state of disarray?
Not because of that, you have people in the GOP slamming one another and radio shock jocks who are influential being disrespectful to the chairman of the party... you have different types of conservatives for one. you have people apologizing limbaugh what kinda politician apologizes to a radio host? talk about incompetent the GOP are a joke, and so are many democrats.. i developed a distaste for what pelosi said about obama yesterday with that big ass smile on her face, but hey myabe she told the truth and that truth fits all politicians whether democrat or republican regardless of ideology
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A lot of that has to do with the fact that conservatives feel they were duped by the past administration. Hence, the popularity of the tea party movement
and why would it be any different come 2012 its the same cycle over and over
Bush used 9/11 to justify invading Iraq. Any patriotic American should have been outraged. Bush lost approval because Americans wised up to the man. They came to learn he was a liar. Especially on the main issue at the time, Iraq. Bush was saying one thing while reality stated another. Factor in his lack of response to Katrina, torturing detainees, devaluation of the dollar, collapse of the economy. The man was a plague on America.
You are talking from the perspective of someone who never supported Bush or any republican. The people who slammed him for Iraq, gitmo, katrina were never the ones who supported him in the first place... hence, were never included in positive polling. He lost favorability with his base for his spending.
I believe if you pull out a world map, and find Iraq, and then look at its relative juxtaposition to world affairs, I believe you will recognize why the United States wanted a presence in Iraq. Do I believe that Saddam was an imminent threat? Not necessarily. But I do believe that stratgically, when you look at the geographic location of Iraq, and its proximity to our stated enemies, it makes perfect sense to be there. We will always have an ally in Iraq in a strategic part of the world because of GWB.
I pulled out the map, and Iraq is right next to places we already have a presence: Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. I'm not seeing the "perfect sense" in being there as you do.
You are talking from the perspective of someone who never supported Bush or any republican. The people who slammed him for Iraq, gitmo, katrina were never the ones who supported him in the first place... hence, were never included in positive polling. He lost favorability with his base for his spending.
his base liked everything else?
figures....
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