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someone has to point out that some of these people need to help themselves instead of just waiting for help. there is no excuse for behaving badly, even in a disaster. there have been world disasters before where people behaved well, so it is no excuse.
from the toronto sun:
The desperation was also giving way to lawlessness. Reports of sporadic scavenging and looting raised of security concerns. In one section of the pummelled city, gangs of looters scurried down streets with sticks in their hands and items stashed under their shirts.
One man was observed in a wheelbarrow, bleeding heavily through a sheet but still alive. Witnesses say he was shot in the chest by a police officer.
Few police can be seen on patrol, but one Haitian officer with a rifle and a gas mask was seen as gun shots could be heard firing in the distance.
At one destroyed supermarket scores of people swarmed over the rubble to try to reach the food underneath. Just outside Cite Soleil slum, desperate people crowded around a burst water pipe jostling to drink from the pipe or fill up buckets.
Some survivors, angry over the delay in getting aid, built roadblocks with corpses.
To add to the security concerns, the Red Cross said as many as 4,000 prisoners may have escaped when the Port-au-Prince prison was destroyed in the quake.
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the security situation on the ground in Haiti remained “pretty good.” WHAT?
i hope that haiti makes some changes after this, since people should be IN JAIL for the corruption that lead to the crappy infrastructure that led to the building failures. haiti has received billions of dollars in aid from many countries and continues to receive aid:
(this was from an article in october)Nearly every international charitable organisation in the world works in Haiti. The country has become highly dependent on foreign aid. From 1990 to 2003, Haiti received more than $4 billion in aid, accounting for nearly seven percent of its GDP.
The U.S. is the largest foreign aid donor to Haiti, contributing over $1.5 billion since 1990. Other major donors include Canada, France, Japan, the Inter-American Development Bank and World Bank.
WHAT TYPE OF AID IS BEING SENT TO HAITI?
A large chunk of foreign aid during the last year has been devoted to reconstruction efforts, such as the rebuilding of roads and bridges, following the hurricanes which caused severe flooding, mudslides and some $1 billion in damage.
Because its a massive task to first get it in country and then distributed to thoise in need.It could get alot worse as days go by with the destruction and things like medical supplies get even shorter. Having been in a hurricane area I can tell you that it takes some time to get massive aid to the area and even longer to get it to the ones that need it. Its not like the Berlin air lift were they had trucks;fork lifts and perfect conditions to move supplies that were landing all day everyday with massive amount of personell already there.
I think it goes to show, as it did during Katrina, that a government cannot come in and make everything sweet and nice within a few days. It's one of the problems when people develop a socialistic/welfare mindset is they become a dependent class always looking to government and never thinking about what they can do to help themselves and their neighbors.
Mostly it is up to the people in Haiti to do what they can and work together to help their neighbors. Stacking dead bodies in the road as roadblocks doesn't help anyone.
someone has to point out that some of these people need to help themselves instead of just waiting for help. there is no excuse for behaving badly, even in a disaster. there have been world disasters before where people behaved well, so it is no excuse.
from the toronto sun:
The desperation was also giving way to lawlessness. Reports of sporadic scavenging and looting raised of security concerns. In one section of the pummelled city, gangs of looters scurried down streets with sticks in their hands and items stashed under their shirts.
One man was observed in a wheelbarrow, bleeding heavily through a sheet but still alive. Witnesses say he was shot in the chest by a police officer.
Few police can be seen on patrol, but one Haitian officer with a rifle and a gas mask was seen as gun shots could be heard firing in the distance.
At one destroyed supermarket scores of people swarmed over the rubble to try to reach the food underneath. Just outside Cite Soleil slum, desperate people crowded around a burst water pipe jostling to drink from the pipe or fill up buckets.
Some survivors, angry over the delay in getting aid, built roadblocks with corpses.
To add to the security concerns, the Red Cross said as many as 4,000 prisoners may have escaped when the Port-au-Prince prison was destroyed in the quake.
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the security situation on the ground in Haiti remained “pretty good.” WHAT?
i hope that haiti makes some changes after this, since people should be IN JAIL for the corruption that lead to the crappy infrastructure that led to the building failures. haiti has received billions of dollars in aid from many countries and continues to receive aid:
(this was from an article in october)Nearly every international charitable organisation in the world works in Haiti. The country has become highly dependent on foreign aid. From 1990 to 2003, Haiti received more than $4 billion in aid, accounting for nearly seven percent of its GDP.
The U.S. is the largest foreign aid donor to Haiti, contributing over $1.5 billion since 1990. Other major donors include Canada, France, Japan, the Inter-American Development Bank and World Bank.
WHAT TYPE OF AID IS BEING SENT TO HAITI?
A large chunk of foreign aid during the last year has been devoted to reconstruction efforts, such as the rebuilding of roads and bridges, following the hurricanes which caused severe flooding, mudslides and some $1 billion in damage.
I am reposting this in hopes that sammie and others will read it. It is dead nuts accurate.
If the mission was executed correctly, the people would receive the aid.
Why don't you volunteer your obvious expertise?
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Originally Posted by floridasandy
someone has to point out that some of these people need to help themselves instead of just waiting for help. there is no excuse for behaving badly, even in a disaster. there have been world disasters before where people behaved well, so it is no excuse.
Tell me, if you had no food, water, or shelter, would you just hang around and wait for people to bring it to you, or would you get angry too? You blame them for being passive, you blame them for looting, you blame them for everything. This is a disaster! It's not a "little inconvenience" in life. For G**'s sake, have a little compassion!
Tell me, if you had no food, water, or shelter, would you just hang around and wait for people to bring it to you, or would you get angry too? You blame them for being passive, you blame them for looting, you blame them for everything. This is a disaster! It's not a "little inconvenience" in life. For G**'s sake, have a little compassion!
You conveniently left out tinman's post. Thank you for the drivel.
someone has to point out that some of these people need to help themselves instead of just waiting for help. there is no excuse for behaving badly, even in a disaster. there have been world disasters before where people behaved well, so it is no excuse.
from the toronto sun:
The desperation was also giving way to lawlessness. Reports of sporadic scavenging and looting raised of security concerns. In one section of the pummelled city, gangs of looters scurried down streets with sticks in their hands and items stashed under their shirts.
One man was observed in a wheelbarrow, bleeding heavily through a sheet but still alive. Witnesses say he was shot in the chest by a police officer.
Few police can be seen on patrol, but one Haitian officer with a rifle and a gas mask was seen as gun shots could be heard firing in the distance.
At one destroyed supermarket scores of people swarmed over the rubble to try to reach the food underneath. Just outside Cite Soleil slum, desperate people crowded around a burst water pipe jostling to drink from the pipe or fill up buckets.
Some survivors, angry over the delay in getting aid, built roadblocks with corpses.
To add to the security concerns, the Red Cross said as many as 4,000 prisoners may have escaped when the Port-au-Prince prison was destroyed in the quake.
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the security situation on the ground in Haiti remained “pretty good.” WHAT?
i hope that haiti makes some changes after this, since people should be IN JAIL for the corruption that lead to the crappy infrastructure that led to the building failures. haiti has received billions of dollars in aid from many countries and continues to receive aid:
(this was from an article in october)Nearly every international charitable organisation in the world works in Haiti. The country has become highly dependent on foreign aid. From 1990 to 2003, Haiti received more than $4 billion in aid, accounting for nearly seven percent of its GDP.
The U.S. is the largest foreign aid donor to Haiti, contributing over $1.5 billion since 1990. Other major donors include Canada, France, Japan, the Inter-American Development Bank and World Bank.
WHAT TYPE OF AID IS BEING SENT TO HAITI?
A large chunk of foreign aid during the last year has been devoted to reconstruction efforts, such as the rebuilding of roads and bridges, following the hurricanes which caused severe flooding, mudslides and some $1 billion in damage.
You dont have the slightest idea what life in Haiti is like. How could you post something so complacent and smug?
[quote=Katiana;12466609]Why don't you volunteer your obvious expertise?
Tell me, if you had no food, water, or shelter, would you just hang around and wait for people to bring it to you, or would you get angry too? You blame them for being passive, you blame them for looting, you blame them for everything. This is a disaster! It's not a "little inconvenience" in life. For G**'s sake, have a little compassion![/quote]
Uhmmm it is their country and they participate in how it operates. It is their fault that it is the wreck that it was before the disaster.
Other 3rd world nations have suffered massive disasters but seemed to rise above base animal instincts.
They own their own behavior. I am sorry but I have little compassion for criminal behavior. So do we forgive the machete carrying thugs who are looting and intimidating their fellow Haitians? Do we have compassion for them? Or should we shoot them just before they start chopping on someone?
I do have compassion for those who in the exact same country at this moment who are conducting themselves with dignity. I have compassion for the victims who are trapped beneath the rubble of fallen buildings.
I have compassion for those who wait for help with composure and who behave in a civilized manner.
The criminals? Well they are what they are.
Oh and yeah I have been to a place very much like Haiti. Somalia
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