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islam law? who cares about islamic law... it doesn't apply to us..
I'm gay and I wouldn't roll up to any middle eastern sand pit EVER.. I'm well aware of their backwardsness... and well they've gotten what they put out...you put out hate, crash airplanes into buildings and harbor terrorists among you... you get back a sh*thole of a place to call home...(islamic nations)
funny how the universe works...
In this article you will find that most sodomy laws in the states were blocked or stopped starting in 1961-1980.
In Texas it was a misdemeanor and fine of $500. A few other states had lengthy prison sentences for sodomy. Of course that is no longer the case with the most conservative states starting in 2003. Does anyone know how common it was for gays to be prosecuted in the more conservative states?
So our overwhelmingly christian country has repealed laws associated with punishing homosexuals. To note the dates is of rather little importance. These laws were not enforced for many many years, just like many very outdated laws that still sit on the books today. Regardless, this just goes to show that a Christian country does NOT demonize homosexuality. How does that compare to muslim countries?
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Reason: ETA: Isn't fellacio against the law in many states? I think I recall hearing that.
islam law? who cares about islamic law... it doesn't apply to us..
Yes, that's what the French, the Norwegians, the Germans and the Brits all thought too . . . and then one day they woke up to hordes and hordes of black-bagged women and angry terrorists living among them and hijacking their civil rights laws to further their own Islamic agenda.
Yes, that's what the French, the Norwegians, the Germans and the Brits all thought too . . . and then one day they woke up to hordes and hordes of black-bagged women and angry terrorists living among them and hijacking their civil rights laws to further their own Islamic agenda.
It is concerning indeed. To ignore it is to allow it to fester and gain momentum. We have much to learn from our European counterparts in this regard.
Speaking in generalities - the ignorance level in this thread is astounding.
I cannot believe that these are the same thoughtful, intelligent, compassionate people whose posts I read elsewhere on this board. I am in total shock.
Yes, that's what the French, the Norwegians, the Germans and the Brits all thought too . . . and then one day they woke up to hordes and hordes of black-bagged women and angry terrorists living among them and hijacking their civil rights laws to further their own Islamic agenda.
calm down betty.. that isn't happening here... what is happening here though is another major religion doing much of the same... religion doesnt belong in government affairs and laws of the land.. that's between individuals and their makers... I lived next door to what seemed like the entire muslim community when I lived in seattle.. I lived down the street from the islamic center.. everyone I encountered was friendly and nice.. the whole sheet covering everyone up thing was weird.. but not my business.. they didn't treat me any different.. I didn't treat them any different.. I don't think they have it out for hijacking our laws.. but if that is what you fear.. perhaps the real issue at large needs to be addressed.. religion period.. We indeed are a nation that adheres to common law principles... so if anything of religious origin starts being incorporated into our laws on the basis of religious views.. it opens the door for Muslims to do the same.. hence.. separation of church and state.
if the muslims scare you.. protect yourself by telling your christian neighbors to shut up and keep their nonsense at church too.. then we will have nothing to fear
"Kid," if you want to participate, may I suggest you stay in THIS CENTURY?
Try following the conversation. I brought up past criminal law on homosexuality because people made claims that weren't true. Someone said "America has had a majority Christian population for 200 plus years and we have not codified homosexuality as a capital offense yet". I was correcting misinformation.
I enjoy the debate on this forum because I often learn things, and I would hope that the other people involved in this conversation would enjoy learning something too.
Also, denverkid refers to my being a child (native) of Denver and is meant to be a reflection of my love for my home town. It has nothing to do with my age. Stop attacking me (this isn't the first time you've done it) by either calling me a kid or referring to my intellect as that of a kid. It's pretty disgusting.
Try following the conversation. I brought up past criminal law on homosexuality because people made claims that weren't true. Someone said "America has had a majority Christian population for 200 plus years and we have not codified homosexuality as a capital offense yet". I was correcting misinformation.
I enjoy the debate on this forum because I often learn things, and I would hope that the other people involved in this conversation would enjoy learning something too.
Also, denverkid refers to my being a child (native) of Denver and is meant to be a reflection of my love for my home town. It has nothing to do with my age. Stop attacking me (this isn't the first time you've done it) by either calling me a kid or referring to my intellect as that of a kid. It's pretty disgusting.
Capital offense? I'm sorry, but a $500 fine is a far cry from a capital offense. And no, I don't agree with the fine either so don't even go there, but comparing a fine to a death sentence is rudimentary at best.
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capital offense n. any criminal charge which is punishable by the death penalty, called "capital" since the defendant could lose his/her head (Latin for caput). Crimes punishable by death vary from state to state and country to country. In some American states these offenses may include first degree murder (premeditated), murder with special circumstances (such as intentional, multiple, involved with another crime, with guns, of a police officer, or a repeat offense), and rape with additional bodily harm, and the federal crime of treason. A charge of a capital offense usually means no bail will be allowed.
Capital offense? I'm sorry, but a $500 fine is a far cry for a capital offense. And no, I don't agree with the fine either so don't even go there, but comparing a fine to a death sentence is rudimentary at best.
You as well - please follow the conversation. A poster (Ferd) said that the US, as a majority Christian nation, has NEVER in its 200+ year history made homosexuality a capital offense. I was simply pointing out that this is not true. Homosexuality was a capital offense in nearly every state from colonial times into the mid-1800's. I also pointed out that as late as 2003 homosexual sex was punishable by life imprisonment in Idaho because I found that interesting.
I never said a fine was the same as the death penalty or anything anything even remotely close to that.
ok, here's my question ... so this guy says that under Islamic law, homosexuality is punishable by death .... is this an acadmic saying this, or a representative of a legal court who would actually dispense such a verdict.
Oh, and don't think for a minute that the US evangelicals aren't over in Uganda rah rah-ing their government's proposal to actually make homosexuality punishable by death. Kind of a living vicariously thing ...
Author: ‘The Family’ behind proposed Ugandan law that would execute HIV+ men | Raw Story (http://rawstory.com/2009/2009/11/author-the-family-proposed-ugandan-law-execute-hiv-men/ - broken link)
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