Yep don't allow us a choice! (lobby, cost, party, goverment)
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
And I don't want my tax dollars to go towards subsidizing corporations or towards funding wars. But I was never given a choice. Where were you until now?
I know that ever since Barry's been in office, we haven't heard much of the wars from the media, but you do realize the wars are still going on right? To think this "take down the corporation and stop the wars" idea is what Obama is doing, is foolish. The wars are still going on, war propagandists are still milking billions from our government for empire building, corporations are larger than ever, etc.
Ignorant huh? Wow, you resort to critisizing others on this forum huh? Society never has, and never will pick up the tab for anything I've done, or will do. I have plenty of money to pay for the treatment I need. I'm all for cheaper health care/insurance, but mandating every American has it violates the very principles in which this country was founded. So, only in my world people die right? All this bill did was consolidate even more control into even fewer hands.
Kick the traitors from congress,impeach hussein obama,repeal the terrible bills that were passed to destroy america and maybe in the end it will end up being the U.S.A again instead of the United Socialist States of America.
Have you considered attending a Tea Party protest? You'd probably make some friends there.
Ignorant huh? Wow, you resort to critisizing others on this forum huh? Society never has, and never will pick up the tab for anything I've done, or will do. I have plenty of money to pay for the treatment I need.
Ignorant yes. I don't think you see the big picture. You see the "ME" picture clearly enough but you belong to a society and that comes with responsibility whether you like it or not. If you don't, you still have the freedom to go elsewhere. Isn't that wonderful? Nobody ever promised you a rose garden.
Because I'm young, healthy, and rarely ever see a doctor. If I don't want insurance, I don't want insurance. Why is it your business? Why are you concerned about what I'm doing? I won't die if I don't have insurance.
(my bolding)
I truly do hope for you that your good health continues.
Here's the thing, though: You might, tomorrow, find yourself needing several hundred thousands worth of health care. You may even need that to just survive, forget about returning to a situation where you can earn an income to repay that cost. Younger, healthier individuals than you have found themselves in that situation.
Now, the rest of society has made an ethical judgment - correctly, in my opinion - that we'll not let you croak (directly) due to lack of funds, even if the chances of you recovering, let alone returning to productive status, are slim. And so the cost comes out of our pockets, in the form of elevated hospital bills - to say nothing of all the billing specialists, collection agents and bankruptcy lawyers we have to pay to get as much as possible out of you (or your estate).
The cost to you, personally, would of course be very much higher. The very best outcome would be for you to be young, healthy and a few hundred thousands in debt. You might be young, unhealthy, uninsurable and a few hundred thousands in debt, which is not a good situation to be in.
If you only rolled the dice on your own behalf, it'd be one thing. But the rest of us are paying to fix young healthy individuals just like you all the time. Pony up. If you end up never needing the insurance you paid for, bless your damn lucky stars.
Like I said, I'm all for lowering health care costs and insurance premiums. The main thing that differs between me, and most Obama fans, are the trust of government. It seems the proponants of this bill have an enduring trust that our goverment can do something of this scale correctly. I know better. I'm also not foolish enough to think this bill is intended to take down the "evil" medical industry. Just putting more power into fewer hands. Companies will still get extremely rich, just the companies Obama supports though...
Ignorant yes. I don't think you see the big picture. You see the "ME" picture clearly enough but you belong to a society and that comes with responsibility whether you like it or not. If you don't, you still have the freedom to go elsewhere. Isn't that wonderful? Nobody ever promised you a rose garden.
Please stop the personal attacks. I haven't disrespected you, so all I ask is you extend me the same gratitude. I live in a society, but it seems you don't. Well, unless one disagrees with you, right? That's were your civil etiquette seems to stop.
Keep trusting that government, they're great at everything.
By the way, I do have health insurance. I was using rhetoric trying to speak for everyone with my distrust of this bill.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.