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Old 04-30-2010, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Y-Town Area
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The horrific scale and volume of the Gulf oil spill is staggering...All those 'drill baby drill' proponents must take a long, hard look at the price being paid by nature and the environment for their short-sighted, ill-conceived exploitation of our natural resources...Is our lust for oil worth what's happening...?
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Old 04-30-2010, 11:42 AM
 
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wow....i agree with obama for once. they should be the ones to pay. but, they should drill more when done.
For once, I agree with him as well.

But, in order for BP to pay, they actually have to drill for more. Where do people think the money would come from?
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Old 04-30-2010, 11:46 AM
 
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Who is he kiiding in the end it ups the cost which will be passed on the to comsumer. Its like every other prodect made.The only exceptuo is if they can't continue but we see even form the balouts that isn't necessarily true.As to what we should do;those nopt wanting a prodcut should stop buying it as like so mnay things that are spilled out into the air or water everyday it's reality.Its liie we quit nuclear and now are years behind meeting our demands . Alterantive are going to be much ore expensive downgrading life quality for many.Look at beaches that are closde when there is runoff from land because of the danger.Many breautiful; areas have sreams with no fish in them form trailing from the 1800 mining.Its just that we are consumers that need to decide what we want to pay in real dollars for more and better methods and safety.
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Old 04-30-2010, 11:46 AM
 
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Well, let's see. The left has pretty much shut down nuclear power in this country, while promoting it for our enemies (Iran — Obama thinks it is just wonderful that they are developing nuclear power —right )

The left wants us to quit using coal as well.

The left thinks that wind is going to supply are needs — ridiculous.

Oil is the energy of freedom. We will always need it. And offshore drilling is safe. When was the last time a rig "blew up"? Never, to my recollection. I think this was sabotage. It is highly unlikely that this rig just "blew up".

I think the left is just plain nuts.
I'm truly surprised that you haven't caught on yet. We've been in the middle east doing their "OILING" for them ever since the 1920's. We've fought expensive wars to stay there. It's obvious that both political parties and anyone with one eye and half sense knows we are burning theirs and saving ours. We've even been pumping their oil into abandoned salt mines in America while paying premium prices for it. Oil's days are numbered and we're much smarter to be among the last countries with some of our own. It's just common sense.
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Old 04-30-2010, 11:49 AM
 
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I found this news article interesting. It's from February, but it can make you wonder about what caused the explosion. https://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?...8e15895d0a&amp
"Louisiana Reports 'Suspicious' Helicopter Activity"
Haven't found a follow up to this story yet.
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Old 04-30-2010, 11:55 AM
 
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Angry Oil Spill Lawsuits Start Drifting Ashore

Oil Spill Suits Start Drifting Ashore - Law Blog - WSJ
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Old 04-30-2010, 12:07 PM
 
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Anyone who says that Bush is to blame for 9/11, is stupid, and needs to get the help of a certified psychologist.

The Hurricane Katrina itself, of course, wasn't Bush's fault either. However, the clean up, and waiting DAYS before help arrived, was partly his fault. I don't let the Governor, the Mayor, and several other officials off the hook either, but you honestly can't let him slide.

Now, as far as the oil spill.

Just yesterday, they thought the well was only pumping out 1/5th of the oil it actually is. This is because BP told the federal government, that the blow back valve on the pipe, had held. A blow back valve allows the main well to seal itself, if ruptured. It didn't work, so now they know that there is more than 5 times the amount of oil, previously thought to be coming out.

President Obama had a staff meeting about this, this morning. He has instructed the Navy, at Pensacola NAS to start taking action to try and contain the spill, as much as possible. He is also sending more people (he has already sent some) to the Mississippi delta, to give him updates on the situation.

He is also going to hold British Petroleum accountable for the disaster, and make them pay us back for all actions we take.

I'd say, he is doing a better job with this disaster, than Bush did with Katrina.

And lets be honest, a oil spill isn't nearly as bad as the biggest, baddest Hurricane we've ever seen.
Just so you know Memphis, it IS the federal governments job to act when there is an offshore disaster. Those areas are not under states jurisdiction. When a disaster like a storm hits a state, then it is the local governments responsibility to take action and ASK for help from the feds. The feds can't just step in without being asked, it's all about State Sovereignty. The problem was, the feds offered LA help during Katrina and they declined. When they knew they weren't prepared and things were getting out of control, then they asked after it was almost too late to do anything.
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Old 04-30-2010, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Just so you know Memphis, it IS the federal governments job to act when there is an offshore disaster. Those areas are not under states jurisdiction. When a disaster like a storm hits a state, then it is the local governments responsibility to take action and ASK for help from the feds. The feds can't just step in without being asked, it's all about State Sovereignty. The problem was, the feds offered LA help during Katrina and they declined. When they knew they weren't prepared and things were getting out of control, then they asked after it was almost too late to do anything.
Really?

I saw every news outlet, including Fox, saying that clean up from an oil spill, lies squarely on the shoulders of the company, not the government.

Also, I remember, the day after Katrina, Ray Naygun standing in front of news outlets begging for Federal aid, and none got in until 3 days after the Hurricane hit.

Do you have proof that LA didn't ask for help, until 3 days after the storm?
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Old 04-30-2010, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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See, this is an intelligent post. No mention of politics or axe grinding, just the simple (and correct) cut to the chase that there is a potentially huge economic impact on tourism dependant states.
President Obama has already put a halt to new off shore drilling. Also, at least one of our Senators, Bill Nelson, is asking for a resolution in the Senate, to prevent any more off shore drilling, until new saftey measures can be put in place.

Hurricanes are different animals all together, BTW. They shut down the platform, so that if it goes down, there will be no spill. You've got several days of warning before a Hurricane hits. This explosion came out of no where, and the saftey measures didn't do their job.
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Old 04-30-2010, 12:34 PM
 
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Risk is necessary to get the things we need in this life!
According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, the estimate for proven offshore Gulf of Mexico reserves amount to 3.464 billion barrels, the U.S. consumes 19, 498,000 barrels a day!

You do the math.
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