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Old 05-12-2010, 11:20 AM
 
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You only have such rights as you can personally defend. If you can't defend them, then it's not a right.


Quite true.

But that doesn't change the legalities here. People have a right to burn the American flag in protest or for any other reason, so says the First Amendment as interpreted by the Supreme Court of the United States.

YOU do NOT have the right to interfere with them doing so, outside some very specific circumstances involving public safety. You most certainly do not have the right to stop them on the grounds or your own personal beliefs.

It is extremely irresponsible for you to make implied threats against people merely exercising their constitutional rights, whether you agree with the manner in which it is done or not.
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Old 05-12-2010, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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A "promise" isn't a threat. People should expect that there will be consequences.

But do whatever you want to do.

You have the right to walk through Watts, screaming about stupid Negros at the top of your lungs. But I'd expect consequences if I were you.
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Old 05-12-2010, 11:38 AM
 
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A "promise" isn't a threat. People should expect that there will be consequences.

But do whatever you want to do.

You have the right to walk through Watts, screaming about stupid Negros at the top of your lungs. But I'd expect consequences if I were you.
There is no excuse for your attitude, just as there would be no excuse for anyone in your example.

Do you really think you have to resort to violence to express your displeasure, even to the point that you now compare yourself to criminals?

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Evelyn Beatrice Hall

I think you have a serious misunderstanding of what it really means to be American.
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Old 05-12-2010, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Lehigh Acres
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An appropriate response would be to dump accelerant on them and coax them closer to the fire.
putting a bullet in them is much cheaper, and safer for yourself and bystanders
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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putting a bullet in them is much cheaper, and safer for yourself and bystanders
A gun costs more than a gallon of gas, or a bit of lighter fluid.
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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There is no excuse for your attitude, just as there would be no excuse for anyone in your example.

Do you really think you have to resort to violence to express your displeasure, even to the point that you now compare yourself to criminals?

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Evelyn Beatrice Hall

I think you have a serious misunderstanding of what it really means to be American.
So if I were to say something here about your mother, and her promiscuity, you'd be perfectly okay with that?
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:43 PM
 
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My , my ,my, and I thought my being submitted to the moderators scissors weren't justified but hey they allow death and burnings....WONDERFUL!
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Lehigh Acres
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So if I were to say something here about your mother, and her promiscuity, you'd be perfectly okay with that?
surely you mean father...

but I digress...

You can take the law into your own hands, but as long as you are willing to suffer the consequences. Fair warning, abu and habib have 12 dozen fellow 7-11 and marriot owners present when burning a flag, you'll be next at the bbq.
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Old 05-13-2010, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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No, generally people take more offense to aspersions being cast about their mothers than their fathers. You can say you're going to kill the president in a room full of cops--you have free speech rights to do so, right? So why not try it sometime? Exercise your "rights" and see how far you get.
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Old 05-13-2010, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Lehigh Acres
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There's no such thing as "free rights" of any kind in this country, if there were, nobody would sue for libel or slander, there would be now laws limiting what you can and cannot say, etc
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