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Old 06-02-2015, 08:08 PM
 
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Navajo Nation – The Navajo, Hopi, all Apache Nations and all other Native Americans who presently reside in Arizona have joined forces in an effort to show the haughty Arizona residents just exactly who has every right to be in that State.

Said Chief Standing Wolf, “it is not those of European decent who should be making the laws of this state, but we, the tribal people, who have been suppressed for too long. Our ancestors have been here for thousands of years, while the white man only came a few hundred years ago. Yet, it is the white man who wants to make ridiculous laws and keep everything lily white. We can no longer stand by and let this happen.”

Short of declaring war on the Arizona government, Chief Standing Wolf instead issued a warning “reverse your laws entitling only English-speaking people to inhabit Arizona. Only then will we back down and allow peace to again grace Arizona, but if you deny our fellow red and brown men their rightful place in this state, there will be bloodshed.”

Of course, Chief Standing Wolf was speaking in his native tongue, so the lawmakers in the State weren’t exactly sure what the message was.
let him try, i was born in phoenix, and my family can trace its ancestry back to the 1700s in this country.
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Old 06-02-2015, 08:58 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Indians deport all non-Indians? It sounds to me like Chief Standing Wolf should lay off the fire water

We need some sort of federal law enforcement agency specifically to combat separatism and nationalism among racial and ethnic minorities. The FBI is too focused on Islamic terrorism. This agency should also be subordinate to a special federal court that would only have 3 punishment options available: sentenced to death, sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole, or exile to another country and placed on the no entry list.
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:54 PM
 
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Ah, the Asian argument.

Humans all evolved in Africa, so does anyone get to live anywhere? The Muslim invasion of Europe? Good! The Europeans don't own that land. Mexicans coming to the US? Should be fine, after all, no one actually owns it!

But most people accept that if a cultural group of people have lived in an areas for as long as the Native Americans had, they pretty much own the land. Just as I would say Europeans own Europe in it's entirety. If the land was without humans on it, the territory is for whoever gets their first. Lucky for us European born, we didn't consider them people to the genocide was pretty easy to justify.
You forgot 1 thing. IF the American Indians ever got strong enough to try to chase off the rest of us; we WILL put up a huge fight and probably win and win big. I say that because the US is our homeland. Europe, Japan and Africa WON'T take our kind "back".

Too; many of the AI's WILL side with us over other tribes. Word is even in 2015 the Navajos and Hopis really don't like each other here in Arizona. I think that Indian against Indian prejudice is stupid but; it is what it is.
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:56 PM
 
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Dear Chief Standing Wolf,

You might want to check with the Salt River/Pima tribe who just opened up a brand new resort and casino called Talking Stick on their Rez. It's right off the 101 in Scottsdale. Big tall building. Can't miss it. And they're building a fabulous new baseball spring training facility. Plus the corporate headquarters for Cold Stone ice cream is on their land.
Time flies ...

Talking Stick is firmly established as a premier resort, the D-backs and Rockies share Salt River Fields, the tribe has added Top Golf to their growing empire and the former CEO of Cold Stone is now the governor of the State of Arizona.
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Old 06-03-2015, 07:18 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Europeans didn't want to leave until the late 1900s and were forced to leave earlier, 50 years after their arrival. Circa 1940 they realized Africa's decolonization was imminent and that they couldn't stop it. They were faced with the choice of fighting or bowing out and they opted to leave with grace. Europe saved face by "granting" Africa independence, for they realized the alternative was that it would be forcibly taken.

Til today, the pockets of Whites that stayed are under threat of being kicked out. Mugabe took White farm lands by force not 5 years ago.

Know the history.

You believe what you want, but there is a reason African countries gained independence en masse from the 60s to the 80s.

And Africa has plenty of money, what do you think the wars are about? You think they fight just to fight? Whoever contols Africa's resources is one of the richest people breathing, full stop. You do realize that the richest man to ever live was African, right? No money? Ok. That's why China is busy wooing Africa, is it? Because they're just that kind?
If we all came from Africa, how can one be more "native" than the rest? I'm not white but I'm not stupid enough to buy into that. There were only explorers and the first settlers, the rest are just following the first explorers. It doesn't matter to me if they arrived by boat or walked, we all originated from the same people.

Hate the white man but have a real reason. Lets just call it racism, oh wait, that's been invented.
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Old 06-03-2015, 07:24 AM
 
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As I said, it doesn't matter who got to this country/continent first. It was a wide open undiscovered frontier for anyone's taking. Being somewhere first does not make one a native. There were no natives here. No one owned the land back then and there were no immigration laws either.

Fast forward to today where governments and borders have been established and even recognized by the United Nations and internationally. So yes, the citizens/governments of each country "are" the owners of that country/land today and they have every right to say who can enter their borders and who cannot.
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Old 06-03-2015, 07:50 AM
 
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Native Americans in Arizona vow to deport all non-native Americans

This guy is just setting up the region for an invasion by Aztlanists to take over and establish its own government. If he thinks he doesn't like the EuroAnglo man, just wait til he has to answer to the Mexican/Indian catholic mixed breed.

Jorge Ramos for El Presidente

And NO casinos.
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Old 06-03-2015, 08:42 AM
 
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Native Americans in Arizona vow to deport all non-native Americans

This guy is just setting up the region for an invasion by Aztlanists to take over and establish its own government. If he thinks he doesn't like the EuroAnglo man, just wait til he has to answer to the Mexican/Indian catholic mixed breed.

Jorge Ramos for El Presidente

And NO casinos.
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You might be right because till the "white" man came here from Spain, there were few Aztecs in what's the US, the Apaches would've killed them 1st.
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Old 09-07-2016, 01:07 PM
 
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There will be bloodshed.

Ok
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Old 09-07-2016, 01:20 PM
 
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With all due respect, Amerindians practiced adverse possession, and as hunter / gatherers continually fought with rival tribes to expand their hunting grounds. And often were driven off by stronger tribes.
They "owned" no land, individually, nor collectively.
They had no legal concept of absolute ownership and the right to exclude others.
Nor did they form cooperative institutions to secure endowed rights, like the Americans did.
. . .
Frankly, any claim to 'eject' Americans from lands they own, will be met with laughter and derision.
And if Amerindians think they can use force to accomplish that goal, they will suffer a defeat.
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