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Old 05-15-2010, 07:01 AM
 
Location: New Kensington (Parnassus) ,Pa
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Trying to enslave the native americans would be like trying to heard cats. My people had issues with the white eyes that only their pain would satisfy,,,BIG PAIN. Give the native brave a shovel and he would use it to shovel out the liver of his slave driver.....Give him an ax and he would quickly chop off the lying tounges of the white men.Give him a knife and he would slit some throats of some of the white mens women.
You are correct, Native Americans would have none of it and would escape at first chance.
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:11 AM
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In the 16th century the white man needed the Indigenous people too much. Although the white man saw these people as exploitable, he depended on them and forged a relationship with them based on the Indigenous peoples knowledge of the land, waters, climates, its people, and it's plant medicines.

Even as late as 1802 the Lewis and Clark expeditions success can be attributed to the help of Indigenous people all along the way as well as members of the group who could speak some the Indigenous languages.

For over 5000 years Slaves were used as a form of Global economy. Its it difficult to enslave and indigenous and nomatic people. In 1619 I would bet that indigenous people, white people and Africans were all used in some kind of servitude. Being the natural propensity for a servant to escape, who do you think would be easier to spot in the crowded city streets? Africans were more valuable IMO not because they made better Slaves, but their value could be guaranteed to stay high.

The Trade Winds are as much responsible for the Atlantic Slave Trade than anything else. No wonder the Portuguese discovered them first. One thing IMO that coincided with and helped to end of the Atlantic Slave Trade was a diary entry of an Englishman. White traders began venture further and further in to Africa to exchange goods and bring back cargo. On one particular trip a European told about an African tribe who were so adorned With Gold, Diamonds, and Jewels their King could barely lift his arm as they were so laden with riches.

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Old 05-15-2010, 07:29 AM
 
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They did, you are showing how little you know
Maybe that is why the person is inquiring?
How did you learn what you know?
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Native Americans owned slaves.

Rep. Diane Watson: Jim Crow in Indian Country
So did black families, on occasion. Here's a book about it, for anyone interested:

Black Masters: A Free Family of Color in the Old South
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:39 AM
 
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So did black families, on occasion. Here's a book about it, for anyone interested:

Black Masters: A Free Family of Color in the Old South
Although the link didnt allow me to read the full commentary for free, based on what Ive read, I feel this is misrepresentative...most blacks who owned slaves came to do so because they had bought their enslaved family members from their masters. As a matter of legal property, yes, they owned slaves...but the intent and the effect was merely to free their kin from bondage. Like I said, I was unable to read the full document, but Im assuming the reference to "A Free Family of Color" as stated by the title of the piece, actually explores this phenomenon in greater detail.
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Old 05-15-2010, 01:43 PM
 
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Oh the ignorance, speculation and irony with which this thread is rife. None of you really know, do you? I look around at the desultory specimens of what is left of the great indian tribes that roamed this land and have trouble picturing them disemboweling white oppressors with the spade end of a shovel. I also have trouble picturing seafaring African slavers dropping off human cargo in Savannah and taking on tobacco, cotton and U.S. dollars for the return trip. It would be so entertaining reading these evermore fanciful and imaginative accounts of slave lore and history if it did not sadden me so much to see that we have not come very far from those times in our awareness.

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Old 05-15-2010, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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The Spanish enslaved them as did the Portugese. The French did not because they never really got the opportunity.
The English were intent on "civilizing" the tribes in the southeast, until they just drove them out.

You are now parcing what you meant to say so that you can make whatever point it is you want to make

In French Louisiana some of the Plantations..were owned by French citizens.

"Jean Noel Destrehan descended from a long line of noble French families and purchased the property that became Destrehan Plantation from his father-in-law’s estate. During Jean Noel’s lifetime, he was a cornerstone of Louisiana History. Jean Noel helped shape the economic situation of the South when he and his brother-in-law, Eitienne deBore perfected the granulation of sugar."

Destrehan Plantation (http://www.destrehanplantation.org/legacy.asp - broken link)
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:39 PM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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Though they would have ****ed up anyone that tried to enslave them, the irony today is that there are so few of them around you could count on one hand the amount you've met in your lifetime.
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Old 05-15-2010, 04:24 PM
 
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“Serious Question: How Come They Didn't enslave the Native Americans?”
The short answer is because they the American native population was hard hit by the diseases we brought with us when we came here.
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