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Old 01-16-2012, 04:08 PM
 
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I don't live in America so can't comment on that. I was never harsh with my children and don't know of any parents who were but we definately gave them guidance and expected certain standards. Autism seems to be a modern disability, even though the previous poster said she has a 39 year old relative that she THINKS has it........only thinks? Hasn't it been diagnosed? Doctors are usually quick to put a name these days to anything
Doctors and researchers are trying so hard to figure out why there seem to be so many more cases now than there used to be. You don't think someone would have come up with "lack of discipline" by now if there were even a remote chance that was the case?
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:11 PM
 
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If you knew anything about autism spectrum disorders you wouldn't say that. You obviously don't know anything about them. It isn't misbehavior. I can barely type, I am so disgusted with your posts. It is obvious you wouldn't know a kid with autism if one was standing right beside you so why don't you refrain from commenting on things you know nothing about?

Autism: Symptoms - MayoClinic.com

Better yet, educate yourself a little. Read the signs of autism, and ask yourself what part of that sounds like lack of discipline. The lack of eye contact? The lack of verbal communication? The repetitive motion? The robot-like speech? Try curing any of that with some discipline.
Just explain to me why it didn't happen to children years ago?
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:18 PM
 
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Just explain to me why it didn't happen to children years ago?
Obviously a lack of discipline. Same thing with peanut allergies, most likely. Just tell your kids to eat their darn peanuts, and if they go into shock, then they need to SUCK IT UP AND GET OVER IT!

Who needs "doctos" and "emergency rooms". Just speak sternly to your kids and send them to their room and they'll be fine! I'm sure they're just faking all those "symptoms" to avoid eating peanuts because lord knows kids HATE peanut butter!
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:19 PM
 
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I'm sorry you feel like that but we are all entitled to our opinions. How come it is such a modern affliction? It didn't appear to happen years ago! I wonder why? We all know that discipline has gone out of the window in most young families, usually one parent and couldn't care less attitude. Don't you think that might have some bearing on the children's behaviour?
I'm guessing that you have little to no experience with or exposure to people with autism. Autism is marked with significant delay in more than one area of development, such as communication, socialization, academics, or age-appropriate behavior. The idea that autism could have been cured or prevented with time-outs or more spanking is ... well, it's ludicrous. It's not a behavioral issue. It's neurological.
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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I'm guessing that you have little to no experience with or exposure to people with autism. Autism is marked with significant delay in more than one area of development, such as communication, socialization, academics, or age-appropriate behavior. The idea that autism could have been cured or prevented with time-outs or more spanking is ... well, it's ludicrous. It's not a behavioral issue. It's neurological.
thank you. You said that much better than I did.
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:41 PM
 
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Just explain to me why it didn't happen to children years ago?
If I knew the answer to that I'd make millions Why is that your only issue? What about how autism presents? What about the signs and symptoms I pointed out? There are all kinds of things in our environment that we are exposed to now that we weren't a generation ago. Chemical, toxins, all kinds of things. Why is discipline the only explanation you can think of? Plus, advancements in prenatal care have given kids a chance to survive who would have died in previous generations. Maybe most of the kids who would have turned out to have autism wouldn't have survived to toddlerhood 40 years ago.
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:44 PM
 
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Apparently, the roots of autism go back a little further than Quenelle is aware. The word dates back more than 100 years, and similar traits to the disease we know indeed go back to the 40's.

A History of Autism
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Old 01-16-2012, 05:05 PM
 
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Just explain to me why it didn't happen to children years ago?
I'm sure it did happen to children years ago. I grew up in England and am probably around the same vintage as you. There were two "Lunatic Asylums" (yes, that's what they were called) close to where I lived and - for some reason - almost every year in high school (early 1960's) our class trekked to one or another of these hospitals and visited the children's ward. I'm not clear on the purpose of these visits - to scare us witless, or to cheer up the kids. Anyway, while there were a number of kids who clearly had severe mental (and often physical) disabilities, I'd be willing to bet that a good few of them were simply on the autism spectrum and, with the knowledge and treatments that we have now for this disorder, would have been living happily and productively at home.
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Old 01-16-2012, 09:00 PM
 
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I'm sure it did happen to children years ago. I grew up in England and am probably around the same vintage as you. There were two "Lunatic Asylums" (yes, that's what they were called) close to where I lived and - for some reason - almost every year in high school (early 1960's) our class trekked to one or another of these hospitals and visited the children's ward. I'm not clear on the purpose of these visits - to scare us witless, or to cheer up the kids. Anyway, while there were a number of kids who clearly had severe mental (and often physical) disabilities, I'd be willing to bet that a good few of them were simply on the autism spectrum and, with the knowledge and treatments that we have now for this disorder, would have been living happily and productively at home.
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Old 01-16-2012, 09:22 PM
 
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Just explain to me why it didn't happen to children years ago?
It has. You just never heard of it because they were institutionalized. Or they were misdiagnosed as many autistic sx mimic psychiatric sx.
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