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Originally Posted by Trimac20
........Can you conceive of a situation/set of life circumstances where you WOULD feel pleasure in life/living? You've talked about being unhappy with your body, would having the body you want 'fix' a lot of those problems, or at least make life seem worth living for you? Or are you just over the idea of life itself, no matter how great?
I'd like to take that question for me. I've always felt that my depression and generally crappy feelings were based in physiology and biochemistry ..... that I'm a fire monkey with a defective nervous system and unbalanced functioning (even though the fire monkey isn't the only aspect of me). If I could improve that and feel better, I would do so - even if it meant seeing the world in a delusional "normal" way, as opposed to being so rational now. In fact if I could have electrodes implanted into my brain's pleasure centers connected to a handheld trigger, I would be pumping that trigger faster than the President caves to corporate interests.
I just want to feel better. I don't particularly want to die, suicide would simply be a way to escape misery. Put me in a corner with the potted plant and my brain stimulation device, dust me off occasionally and water me, I'll be fine.
(for those who don't know, "fire monkey" refers to humans as animals - animals that were clever enough to invent ways to control fire, but still nothing special).
I do not wish to write a page-long post about my own life, but I can assure you that I am not "swimming in ****". I'm sorry that is your perception of your own life, but you are way over-generalizing, to put it mildly, when you claim it applies to everybody. I am not in denial at all. Life has its problems, discouragements, disappointments, and pain. But what predominates in my life are gratifying and rewarding activities and interactions with others. What a shame if you do not have any of the latter. Almost all people have a mixture of the latter and the former, and it is one's attitude which determines if the negatives will be the focus of one's life. What strikes me especially is your arrogance in assuming that only the abjectly miserable can see clearly. Get off your high horse.
Um...I'm not on any "high horse" nor am I arrogant. I think you're barking up the wrong tree, as they say. You don't know me or what's going on in my life. If anything, it's you who are on a high horse as you clearly cannot accept differences of opinion. I don't recall attacking you or anything you posted, so back the **** off. If anything, it's you who came here looking to start **** with people.
Um...I'm not on any "high horse" nor am I arrogant. I think you're barking up the wrong tree, as they say. You don't know me or what's going on in my life. If anything, it's you who are on a high horse as you clearly cannot accept differences of opinion. I don't recall attacking you or anything you posted, so back the **** off. If anything, it's you who came here looking to start **** with people.
If you don't see the blatant non-sequiturs in your own post, it would be pure futility on my part to try to explain them to you.
To those of you who think life isn't worth it and want out:
Does it ever help any of you to just DO SOMETHING that you find mentally and/or physically challenging and keeps your mind occupied for hours at a time or even a few days at a time? It could be anything--building models, planning and planting a garden, working on a car, going fishing, going for a walk and writing down as you go along all the things you notice around you, trying to learn to play an instrument, joining a physical fitness class, immersing yourself in a really interesting book, taking a class at your local college......the possibilities are endless.
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Originally Posted by Cunucu Beach
To those of you who think life isn't worth it and want out:
Does it ever help any of you to just DO SOMETHING that you find mentally and/or physically challenging and keeps your mind occupied for hours at a time or even a few days at a time? It could be anything--building models, planning and planting a garden, working on a car, going fishing, going for a walk and writing down as you go along all the things you notice around you, trying to learn to play an instrument, joining a physical fitness class, immersing yourself in a really interesting book, taking a class at your local college......the possibilities are endless.
When you're really down, even things that used to give you pleasure no longer do.
Sometimes you just got to weather the grey rainclouds.
No. There has been times when I compare myself to others and feel worse off, but it's laughable, I'm still good looking in my opinion and have a good family that loves me. I have nothing to be ashamed of in my opinion. I believe we have souls and learn lessons in a body on earth.
Yes, but it's not to be in this life. Hopefully I'll get it in the next one. In this current body / existence, I am very much over it. I could win the lottery tomorrow and still feel the same way, unless by some miracle, the money could go towards turning me into at least an "ok" looking woman. What would give me pleasure would be to wake up in the right body tomorrow morning. I would be happy with that, even if I still didn't like society. I would feel able to make friends of the same gender, knowing that they won't assume that I'm trying to get into their pants.
In my case, the toil isn't worth it. I am not mentally ill and no pills or expensive therapy sessions are going to make me see the world or myself differently.
Society exerts an awful lot of pressure on people to conform. I hate it.
Feel free to ignore this if it would cause more strain for you - but I am curious - what does "feeling like a woman" feel like? I am a woman and I feel like a human being . . . what is it that you are missing, I wonder?
I am the type of person who feels that we choose our incarnations - and then we may not recall the reasons - not trying to foist my point-of-view on you, just share my perspective . . .so in that scenario, if you would like to play along, what do you think you might have been attempting to take on a male body - a body which feels awkward to you for some reason . . .
We are not conscious of picking our looks - and I truly don't know if we really do, or if it is just "luck of the draw."
I was attractive when I was younger and felt very lucky that that was my lot . . .now I think of myself as "formerly attractive." So I don't identify myself by my looks anymore, just my awesome brain
Why are you so hyper-focused on your body?
Do you work? Do you enjoy your work?
What else is your life about besides X and Y chromosomes . . .it seems so shallow to me to focus on having a penis versus vagina . . .why not just work on ACCEPTING what you have and get on with it?
To those of you who think life isn't worth it and want out:
Does it ever help any of you to just DO SOMETHING that you find mentally and/or physically challenging and keeps your mind occupied for hours at a time or even a few days at a time? It could be anything--building models, planning and planting a garden, working on a car, going fishing, going for a walk and writing down as you go along all the things you notice around you, trying to learn to play an instrument, joining a physical fitness class, immersing yourself in a really interesting book, taking a class at your local college......the possibilities are endless.
This is excellent advise. I just got out of a two day funk and if it had gone on much longer, I don't know what I would have done. What snapped me out of it was getting a massage. Massage for me is like a miracle - it completely changes my attitude.
Now if I could just remember that, every time I got down, I would book a massage immediately instead of wallowing . . .
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Originally Posted by imcurious
Feel free to ignore this if it would cause more strain for you - but I am curious - what does "feeling like a woman" feel like? I am a woman and I feel like a human being . . . what is it that you are missing, I wonder?
I am the type of person who feels that we choose our incarnations - and then we may not recall the reasons - not trying to foist my point-of-view on you, just share my perspective . . .so in that scenario, if you would like to play along, what do you think you might have been attempting to take on a male body - a body which feels awkward to you for some reason . . .
We are not conscious of picking our looks - and I truly don't know if we really do, or if it is just "luck of the draw."
I was attractive when I was younger and felt very lucky that that was my lot . . .now I think of myself as "formerly attractive." So I don't identify myself by my looks anymore, just my awesome brain
Why are you so hyper-focused on your body?
Do you work? Do you enjoy your work?
What else is your life about besides X and Y chromosomes . . .it seems so shallow to me to focus on having a penis versus vagina . . .why not just work on ACCEPTING what you have and get on with it?
I've always wondered about this too. Since I believe a lot of our 'gender identity' is in fact socialized into us, and is a product of both how people treat us and how we in turn present ourselves to the world, I'm curious as to how people who are trans feel they are 'in the wrong body.' Like you say, just what about being female actually affects your consciousness? I suppose it's because you'd like to be TREATED like a female instead of a male? But these days the sexes are treated more equally than ever before, although obviously still differently. Because you want people to see you as a female because you feel more comfortable assuming the female identity?
Or I wonder if you (as in dragonborn or anyone who is trans for that matter) believe it's even more innate than that...that you feel 'too sensitive' to be male, although of course being 'sensitive' is not exclusively a female trait.
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