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I had a friend who was gay years ago, and while he wasn't sexually attracted, he really admired the beauty of some women. We went to see the movie "Maid In Manhattan" starring Jennifer Lopez and Ralph Fiennes. He made a big deal about how gorgeous she was in some scenes. But he was obviously not physically attracted.
I think it's the same with straight men and women. Women can look at other women and really admire their beauty. They'll give them compliments, they'll gush, they'll say "Oh I'd love to look like that." Or "So-and-So looked SO BEAUTIFUL in that dress."
Straight men rarely voice it, but no doubt, they probably see other men and admire what they've got.
What do you mean Used to be gay ? Anyway. This is what I probably dislike the most about these types of conversations--the need to lump together gay with femininity. I know of a few gay guys and none of them are remotely fem--to me that is some are completely 'undetectable' but then again I can see how it happens so easily.
Another thing I noticed was the pressure of society to force gay men onto women. Most guys that are gay have been with a women not due to his own feelings but due to everyone forcing/pressuring them to be with women only to have waste both of their time. You will never see anyone pressuring any straight man to 'just try it!' down their throats. Which is why I have no idea where some people get this 'gay agenda' BS from. Another thing I have noticed as to how society favor women greatly when it comes to sex. You will see on TV women saying 'I love women, I like girls too!' fake lesbian crap. Some do sleep with women and some do not. But when a women sleeps with another woman NOBODY labels her a lesbian. No one even looks at her differently.
But if a man even hugs another man hes gay. Or if he shows even the slightest affection/care for a male friend its gay and their is no coming back from it. Women socially have it so much more better than men. But then again this could also be viewed as a male dominate way of teaching people that a girl/girl is wild, cool and sexy but a guy/guy is ewww, nasty. Which is probably why a majority of straight women do not tend to sexualize men.
But I will say this tho--everyone likes the 'pretty girls' and why not they are fun as hell to be around. The only ones that tend to be against them are fat straight women.
I hope you dont mind me asking but in a sense I am dealing with a friend who did this to me. When you fell in love with your high school sweet heart did you know you were gay? Did you two date and if so how was it knowing you were gay but dating a girl? I dated a girl for 2 years in college but that was before I knew I was gay and came out. I ask that because the guy I feel in love with is now dating his hs sweet heart and said he liked me but I had a bf and now has to try it with a girl. I thought he was lying just to lead me on but hearing your story is making me wonder.
Well looking back I always knew I was attracted to guys,but since I was also attracted to girls I tried to suppress the gay feelings and hope they were just a phase I guess. Once I finally admitted to myself I was gay and it was okay...not something to be ashamed for I came out. I was 23. It's not like I just decided to be gay then, I always was. And it was not like I was dating girls in HS because I was trying to hide it either, I really did have feelings for her.
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What do you mean Used to be gay ? Anyway. This is what I probably dislike the most about these types of conversations--the need to lump together gay with femininity. I know of a few gay guys and none of them are remotely fem--to me that is some are completely 'undetectable' but then again I can see how it happens so easily.
Another thing I noticed was the pressure of society to force gay men onto women. Most guys that are gay have been with a women not due to his own feelings but due to everyone forcing/pressuring them to be with women only to have waste both of their time. You will never see anyone pressuring any straight man to 'just try it!' down their throats. Which is why I have no idea where some people get this 'gay agenda' BS from. Another thing I have noticed as to how society favor women greatly when it comes to sex. You will see on TV women saying 'I love women, I like girls too!' fake lesbian crap. Some do sleep with women and some do not. But when a women sleeps with another woman NOBODY labels her a lesbian. No one even looks at her differently.
But if a man even hugs another man hes gay. Or if he shows even the slightest affection/care for a male friend its gay and their is no coming back from it. Women socially have it so much more better than men. But then again this could also be viewed as a male dominate way of teaching people that a girl/girl is wild, cool and sexy but a guy/guy is ewww, nasty. Which is probably why a majority of straight women do not tend to sexualize men.
But I will say this tho--everyone likes the 'pretty girls' and why not they are fun as hell to be around. The only ones that tend to be against them are fat straight women.
That's exactly what I've been trying to tell people on this forum (I wasn't the first to realise this idea, but I realised it independently. I then read stuff other people had observed independently). A strange lack of sexual interest in males and the male form. If girls liked us the way we like them they'd find gay porn totally hot lmao.
Well looking back I always knew I was attracted to guys,but since I was also attracted to girls I tried to suppress the gay feelings and hope they were just a phase I guess. Once I finally admitted to myself I was gay and it was okay...not something to be ashamed for I came out. I was 23. It's not like I just decided to be gay then, I always was. And it was not like I was dating girls in HS because I was trying to hide it either, I really did have feelings for her.
Thanks..
That sounds like the same situation as me, although, I was in college when I dated a girl for 2 years. However, I still think the guy I know lied to me about his sexuality and is straight when he claimed to be gay.
That sounds like the same situation as me, although, I was in college when I dated a girl for 2 years. However, I still think the guy I know lied to me about his sexuality and is straight when he claimed to be gay.
Well I would not be so sure about that. I mean how many straight guys pretend to be gay? I am not saying he was or was not. Maybe he was just unsure about his sexuality and was trying to figure out things. I remember in my late teens and 20's it was such a big deal coming out to my ffriends and most of all myself,why don't you just ask the guy? anyway I hope things work out for you as you seem like a nice guy!!!
I'm a gay male and while I appreciate and can obviously distinguish between a beautiful woman and a not so beautiful woman, I have zero sexual attraction to either.
That's exactly what I've been trying to tell people on this forum (I wasn't the first to realise this idea, but I realised it independently. I then read stuff other people had observed independently). A strange lack of sexual interest in males and the male form. If girls liked us the way we like them they'd find gay porn totally hot lmao.
You know its intresting you say this beacuse I know of a few women (whom I do not know personaly) that are REALLY into gay porno! And i mean really into it--to the point at where its almost damaging, they don't even find hetero sex interesting. They are all over Twitter and what not. I even know of one or two female directors. Now this may come out the wrong way but I don't know if women should be directing any kind of porno what so ever. Maybe its me just not understanding women mentally but I just do not think its for them but they are their.... But its finally interesting to hear someone else agree with a point I have had in the back of my mind for a while now. Woman are complicated creatures.
Homosexuality isn't a choice, but sexuality exists on a spectrum. If we're going to talk strictly biological, only a minority of humans are 100% in either direction. Most fall on the bisexual spectrum. A homosexual man having some attraction to women doesn't make it a choice.
I believe this hits the nail on the head.
Sometime in the future, when more research is done and society is more accepting of all sexual orientations, it will be understood that bisexuality is much more common than people nowadays suppose. However, I do think that bisexuals tend to tilt in one direction or the other than those who are 'dead center' on straight (Kinsey scale 0) to gay (Kinsey scale 6).
Sometime in the future, when more research is done and society is more accepting of all sexual orientations, it will be understood that bisexuality is much more common than people nowadays suppose. However, I do think that bisexuals tend to tilt in one direction or the other than those who are 'dead center' on straight (Kinsey scale 0) to gay (Kinsey scale 6).
That's been my experience. Bisexuality is a whole other topic that is horribly misunderstood. Personally I have found fluctuations in my attraction over the years, depending on the other person, my age, my maturity, etc. I am primarily attracted to women, but I was married to a guy for a decade, and had plenty of boyfriends in high school.. it's just that for a long term partner I am probably more likely to be with another female (I am now in a same-sex marriage), but I am not willing to declare any label because it is pointless and just not that simple.
Sometime in the future, when more research is done and society is more accepting of all sexual orientations, it will be understood that bisexuality is much more common than people nowadays suppose. However, I do think that bisexuals tend to tilt in one direction or the other than those who are 'dead center' on straight (Kinsey scale 0) to gay (Kinsey scale 6).
I agree. When I say "bisexual", I don't mean most are 50/50. I think most people do lean heavily in one direction. I would say most people are 1 or 2 on the Kinsey scale, but they identify as "Straight".
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