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Old 06-16-2014, 07:56 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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The rules seem to be, you must feel sympathy for the men, and change yourself to please them, because they're unhappy. No, don't bother asking the guys to have sympathy in return; they don't have it for you and won't be starting now.

Oh, and you must start dating guys you don't find hot, while you also realize that if you yourself aren't hot, these same guys would never lower themselves to date you.
On C-D, the guys refuse to believe women struggle to date. This topic can't even be discussed on the Relationships forum; the guys shut it down whenever it comes up. Only men are allowed to complain about being sidelined in the dating game.
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Old 06-16-2014, 08:10 PM
 
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This oversexed society is what sets them up to think like that.

Don't get me wrong, they are entirely responsible for their own actions. What I am saying is, is that guys are basically conditioned to think if you are still a virgin by a certain age or haven't kissed a female by a certain age there is something seriously wrong with you. It sets up that type of mindset, and in the wrong minds it can lead to disasters like this.
Yes, this is it. Plus, they isolate themselves, so they don't meet all the other guys in college (and the women) who are in the same boat. They have no idea they're not alone, and that it's not that uncommon to go through college without having certain experiences.
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Old 06-16-2014, 08:19 PM
 
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On C-D, the guys refuse to believe women struggle to date. This topic can't even be discussed on the Relationships forum; the guys shut it down whenever it comes up. Only men are allowed to complain about being sidelined in the dating game.
That's really it in a nutshell. The fact that men simply can't comprehend women having the same trouble getting dates pretty much tells the story. It's a complete fixation that probably cannot be undone as severe as it is.
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Old 06-16-2014, 08:48 PM
 
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On C-D, the guys refuse to believe women struggle to date. This topic can't even be discussed on the Relationships forum; the guys shut it down whenever it comes up. Only men are allowed to complain about being sidelined in the dating game.
I would say maybe it looms larger as an issue to modern men, because the likes of our fathers and grandfathers weren't taught to share their feelings on the topic, beyond a pro forma grumble or two before getting down to the business of discussing sports and beer. Me, I found it heartwarming when I discovered that men friends of my acquaintance had the same issues that women had (well, at least I can attest firsthand to the types of men who believe in journaling).
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Old 06-17-2014, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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On C-D, the guys refuse to believe women struggle to date. This topic can't even be discussed on the Relationships forum; the guys shut it down whenever it comes up. Only men are allowed to complain about being sidelined in the dating game.
This is totally illogical given that there are almost equal numbers of men and women in the dating game. If the women aren't having problems dating and the guys are, who are the women dating?

It stands to reason that if a significant number of men are going dateless that a significant number of women are going dateless too. Something doesn't add up here.
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Old 06-17-2014, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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I would say maybe it looms larger as an issue to modern men, because the likes of our fathers and grandfathers weren't taught to share their feelings on the topic, beyond a pro forma grumble or two before getting down to the business of discussing sports and beer. Me, I found it heartwarming when I discovered that men friends of my acquaintance had the same issues that women had (well, at least I can attest firsthand to the types of men who believe in journaling).
Actually, they didn't judge women by their looks alone and they didn't expect them like prizes. Go back to the pioneer days. A wife was a needed partner. So much so that men would send for a mail order bride (testifies to the difficulty in dating back then too) if they lost their wife. It's only in modern society that women have become prizes men think they deserve just for existing.
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Old 06-17-2014, 07:46 AM
 
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That's really it in a nutshell. The fact that men simply can't comprehend women having the same trouble getting dates pretty much tells the story. It's a complete fixation that probably cannot be undone as severe as it is.
Those women don't count. Only the "dateable" ones do. There are a fair group of invisible women, so how can they be sympathized with or included in the debate if they don't really exist.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Those women don't count. Only the "dateable" ones do. There are a fair group of invisible women, so how can they be sympathized with or included in the debate if they don't really exist.
Bingo. Undateable women just don't count because they're undateable. Of course it's WRONG for DATEABLE women to not want to date THEM because ALL MEN should be able to date dateable women. Only women fall into the undateable category.

Maybe we should legalize polyandry. Then all the men can share the dateable women. I'm guessing they don't want to share though.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:21 AM
 
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On C-D, the guys refuse to believe women struggle to date. This topic can't even be discussed on the Relationships forum; the guys shut it down whenever it comes up. Only men are allowed to complain about being sidelined in the dating game.

That's because it's true, and it's been explained to you many times, despite your vociferous protestations to the contrary.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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That's because it's true, and it's been explained to you many times, despite your vociferous protestations to the contrary.
So the women who are deemed undateable and sit home on Saturday night are just a figment of our imagination?
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