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The good news is that Gov Cooper and Dr. Cohen stuck with their mask mandate. Dr. Redfield of the CDC once again reinforced their efficacy. To me it is doubtful that the vaccine will come in time for the fall and even if it should, there will probably be limited distribution with those with very high risk being a priority. IMHO, it is also just good solid policy that when presenting scientific information to the public any disagreements between the president and the CDC should be hammered out prior to presenting the information to the public.
It's difficult also to know, when considering the CDC website and their information, that it comes from the scientific community and not the WH. The test guideline revisions were posted on the website despite the fact that the scientists were in disagreement with these test revisions. Again IMHO, the scientists should be in charge of forming the basis for driving the policy to safeguard the public.
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Originally Posted by GVoR
I think Azar's decree last night renders that first bolded portion of your post moot.
We will have a vaccine by the election, if not before, regardless of it's efficacy and long term health impacts.
Team GVoR will be sitting that one out.
As for the second bold...yes. Simply slapping "CDC" on it, makes any position stated seem like it came from the scientists...even if it came from an apparatchik. I'll leave my position to die right there, as there is no way to expound on it and honor RedZin's rules in post #1
Did anyone see the Sunday journalist shows, Meet The Press, Stephanopoulos, Face The Nation, etc.?
My series recording for these failed so missed them, I heard on the news that the epidemiology / immunology authorities were on to dispute the White House advice.
today - lowest cases in ~ 2 weeks. 4th time at 800 or below since 6/9, when wee were in the midst of increasing cases. 7-day average down. If you look at cases.
Total hospitalization lowest in > 1 month (except 1 day), with confirmed admissions lowest in 2 weeks and below all but 3 days of last 30. ICU's down 10 days ago. Again, 3rd lowest total in the last month +. And 95% reporting.
today - lowest cases in ~ 2 weeks. 4th time at 800 or below since 6/9, when wee were in the midst of increasing cases. 7-day average down....
That is better than increasing, but 800 is still a big number. One can’t become de-sensitized to the numbers. Those are people. I doubt I have 800 friends, but if I did, that would be all of them!
De-sensitized is the word of the day, and I think we're all affected by this, including those of us on the more conservative side of it.
A combination of Covid fatigue, cabin fever, sometimes just plain forgetting when we are out living our lives, or when interacting with friends or other connections who are not on the conservative side of it who bring down the level of caution.
All preventable? No way that was ever possible in any country. There is no way to even know for sure how many more could have been saved by doing anything else. It would just be a wild guess.
All preventable? No way that was ever possible in any country. There is no way to even know for sure how many more could have been saved by doing anything else. It would just be a wild guess.
The United States of America makes up 4% of the world's population and makes up 25% if the world's covid cases. What in the world? We're talking the United States of America.
The United States of America makes up 4% of the world's population and makes up 25% if the world's covid cases. What in the world? We're talking the United States of America.
The United States has the highest rate of tests per capita (tested more) and we set the sensitivity rate higher than other countries. It's only logical we would find more positives. Context is important.
The United States has the highest rate of tests per capita (tested more) and we set the sensitivity rate higher than other countries. It's only logical we would find more positives.
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Originally Posted by Thnkfl4CountryLife
Context is important.
Yep, sure is:
"Jeffrey Shaman, an epidemiologist at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health, told us for a previous story that per-capita test numbers are “not as informative as looking at testing per positive infection identified.”
Comparing the U.S. to South Korea, for example, Shaman said, “They’re testing 10 times as many per infection found.”
We downloaded the data for May 9 and found that the U.S. ranked 59th out of 64 countries in tests per confirmed case as of that date."
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