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The fact is she does have a choice, to either give him some or face the consequences - violence. Do you consider those consequences to be force, which is what makes rape, rape? Do you think it should be considered force, even though she is choosing to give in?
Are there any laws concerning this?
I dont know how the law sees it, but I would think he would have to be in a position of authority over her to consider the sexual coercion a form of rape. These days It would be hard to to qulify a spouse an authority figure.
Yes, there are laws regarding what is considered "sexual coercion", most especially if made under duress or threat of violence. It falls under the same classifications, the differences being similar to the differences between murder and manslaughter (not THE differences, merely comparable).
It is not technically RAPE, despite how utterly deplorable as it is. It is sexual coercion, IF she's actually (we have only your tale to go on and it's sketchy at best since it began as a physical problem for her and without much description or reasoning at all twisted into her having no drive based on the abuse -- I think this account is hypothetical) facing violent repercussions, ie, if he's actually threatening physical harm to her person OR to other persons as penalty for refusing him sexual access to her body.
All of that without turning it into a discussion of all the things you said you DIDN'T want.
Although I agree with US, I think there's a lot of gray in there. Was he ever violent in the past towards her directly or was he throwing tantrums and smashing doors and yelling? Is she in fear of acts of violence towards her or is she fearful of his angry disposition in general? Is he threatening her with harm or being an abusive jerk that says "if my own wife won't give me any, some other chick will"?
Having sex to appease your SO happens in many relationships, therefore I think if one consents, for whatever reason unless under direct threat, it seems unlikely it would be considered rape. Even "sexual coercion" seems something that would be hard to prove in a long-term relationship.
yes I read it after I posted...however, there are laws for everything today which sometimes doesn't make sense....
I would hope that any jury would ask her why she doesn't leave....
we all know, men need sex....they have to have it...she claims she lost all sexual desire....so, why is she staying? to be taken care of...are they're no fringe benefits for her husband? It is so unfair to keep a husband at bay...
And, to what degree is the violence...is he threatening her? Is there violence...I'm sorry, I need to know more...
While women are normally considered the lessor strength...it's easy to access, but it depends on her situation only, and of course, there should never be any kind of violence, but I'm wondering if there is any? If she has lost all sexual desire, why does she stay....she is using him?
Isn't that a form of abuse in some way? I mean, think about it, really, in today's world, one could claim anything?
Fact remains, if he is even threatening violence, if she doesn't give into him, she is wrong for staying....why would you want to stay and torture yourself?
Is it rape, no, b/c she is allowing him to do this and not getting as far away from the situation as possible.
Too much left out. What's the "violence" you speak of? Is he beating her ass if she doesn't perform wifely duties or are we talking about the feminist version of violence that amounts to "mean looks" and "not giving her money".
I cannot believe I'm reading this. Qualify it all you wish, this makes me ill.
Although I agree with US, I think there's a lot of gray in there. Was he ever violent in the past towards her directly or was he throwing tantrums and smashing doors and yelling? Is she in fear of acts of violence towards her or is she fearful of his angry disposition in general? Is he threatening her with harm or being an abusive jerk that says "if my own wife won't give me any, some other chick will"?
THAT is not violence.
Their relationship started with verbal assaults and escalated to physical violence. Whether or not he slammed doors or threw things, she didn't say. It is very common in these relationships though.
yes I read it after I posted...however, there are laws for everything today which sometimes doesn't make sense....
I would hope that any jury would ask her why she doesn't leave....
we all know, men need sex....they have to have it...she claims she lost all sexual desire....so, why is she staying? to be taken care of...are they're no fringe benefits for her husband? It is so unfair to keep a husband at bay...
And, to what degree is the violence...is he threatening her? Is there violence...I'm sorry, I need to know more...
While women are normally considered the lessor strength...it's easy to access, but it depends on her situation only, and of course, there should never be any kind of violence, but I'm wondering if there is any? If she has lost all sexual desire, why does she stay....she is using him?
Isn't that a form of abuse in some way? I mean, think about it, really, in today's world, one could claim anything?
Fact remains, if he is even threatening violence, if she doesn't give into him, she is wrong for staying....why would you want to stay and torture yourself?
Is it rape, no, b/c she is allowing him to do this and not getting as far away from the situation as possible.
This is what I was trying to avoid. *sigh*
Creme, those questions you are asking up there, that are actually assertions, have answers that you really should do the research to find. And I would ask that you read my posts again because you missed a whole lot of obvious there.
Their relationship started with verbal assaults and escalated to physical violence. Whether or not he slammed doors or threw things, she didn't say. It is very common in these relationships though.
Of course, you & I know that's not violence. However, there was little background given about this man's prior behavior. Women in emotionally abusive relationships (even without physical abuse) usually feel like they are walking on egg-shells around their SO. I just caution, that women in these situations therefore have didn't perceptions of what a "threat of violence" is. I am not condoning or justifying his behavior whatsoever.
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