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The same way an unemployed construction worker will eat. People in human resources have transferable skills just like most workers. They don't have to work in human resources.
If the Human Resources specialist cannot find a job, then she (and it is almost always a "she") cannot go out and do freelance secretarial work. The construction worker who gets laid off from ABC Construction Co. can always pick up side work building patios, putting up drywall, etc.
If the Human Resources specialist cannot find a job, then she (and it is almost always a "she") cannot go out and do freelance secretarial work. The construction worker who gets laid off from ABC Construction Co. can always pick up side work building patios, putting up drywall, etc.
Plenty of freelance secretarial work on craigslist. Then there are the temp. agencies. Most people can find work if they are humble enough to take what's out there.
If the Human Resources specialist cannot find a job, then she (and it is almost always a "she") cannot go out and do freelance secretarial work. The construction worker who gets laid off from ABC Construction Co. can always pick up side work building patios, putting up drywall, etc.
Keep in mind that there are a lot of carpenters available for hire right now. Consumers have our pick of the cream of the crop. When I hire I want a master craftsman with excellent recommendations, rather than just any laborer.
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Plenty of freelance secretarial work on craigslist. Then there are the temp. agencies. Most people can find work if their humble enough to take what's out there.
Keep in mind that there are a lot of carpenters available for hire right now. Consumers have our pick of the cream of the crop. When I hire I want a master craftsman with excellent recommendations, rather than just any laborer.
Keep in mind that there's a much greater demand for people who can fit pipes and wire buildings than there is for people who can file documents and answer phones.
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Plenty of freelance secretarial work on craigslist. Then there are the temp. agencies. Most people can find work if they are humble enough to take what's out there.
It goes beyond just finding "work." Carpentry, brick masonry, and iron welding are crafts that you can build on to establish a very solid business. Being a good Human Resources Specialist may get you promoted, but you can't become self-employed with those skills. This is why, in the long run, the guy learning how to repoint brick edifices is in a better position than the girl with the Human Resources degree from the University of Maryland.
Keep in mind that there's a much greater demand for people who can fit pipes and wire buildings than there is for people who can file documents and answer phones.
Doing construction labor doesn't lend an electricians license or skill, master carpentry skills, nor the references consumers demand. You are ignoring the facts of this recession, which have many men in the construction labor trade unemployed.
For example, "But jobs in fields where men are disproportionately represented (manufacturing, construction) have been hit harder than fields where a disproportionate number of women work (education, health care).
Even if the overall unemployment rate falls in the coming months and years, the gap between men and women may persist. As Newsweek notes this week, of the 15 jobs categories expected to grow fastest in the next decade, 13 are staffed primarily by women."
Although, I'm sure salary wise a majority of those jobs are nothing to write home about.
Overall, men do not exhibit statistically significant racial preference.
I think most of that study is probably specific to Columbia.
At least on the west coast I’ve been seeing Asian guys gaining popularity with woman of other races. One of my best friends who is Philippino in LA dates WF and Hispanic woman exclusively and he has them lined up out the door. My BM friends date White and Hispanic exclusively too, go figure? You would think there would be a White woman shortage on the west coast .
And on the BW and others dating out I haven't been turned down yet because I'm not black. On the other hand I'm not just walking up to a woman and asking her out either. I Haven't gone out with a bossy, crass or rude BW yet. It's been sweet, classy and very feminine.
I'm sure going forward your going to see a lot of non-stereotypical couples out there. People are going to eventually step out from their societal accepted roles if for nothing else to meet someone that works specifically for them and not anyone else.
Doing construction labor doesn't lend an electricians license or skill, master carpentry skills, nor the references consumers demand. You are ignoring the facts of this recession, which have many men in the construction labor trade unemployed.
For example, "But jobs in fields where men are disproportionately represented (manufacturing, construction) have been hit harder than fields where a disproportionate number of women work (education, health care).
Even if the overall unemployment rate falls in the coming months and years, the gap between men and women may persist. As Newsweek notes this week, of the 15 jobs categories expected to grow fastest in the next decade, 13 are staffed primarily by women."
Although, I'm sure salary wise a majority of those jobs are nothing to write home about.
Based on the current state of our economy, I would say that law and banking are not good fields to go into either. Is it better to encourgage an aspiring antitrust attorney to become a nurse instead because that's where the jobs are right now?
A skilled electrician will make more than the best Human Resources Specialist 100 times out of 100. Many of those guys are unionized, too, so they really command a good wage. You're assuming that the choices are either (a) go to college or (b) be an unskilled day laborer. There are a lot of men who did not go to college, developed a craft, and do very well for themselves financially. In the long run, these guys are much better off than the HR Specialist who has very little choice in her field other than working for the Man.
Based on the current state of our economy, I would say that law and banking are not good fields to go into either. Is it better to encourgage an aspiring antitrust attorney to become a nurse instead because that's where the jobs are right now?
A skilled electrician will make more than the best Human Resources Specialist 100 times out of 100. Many of those guys are unionized, too, so they really command a good wage. You're assuming that the choices are either (a) go to college or (b) be an unskilled day laborer. There are a lot of men who did not go to college, developed a craft, and do very well for themselves financially. In the long run, these guys are much better off than the HR Specialist who has very little choice in her field other than working for the Man.
Your argument isn't making sense. A typical guy doing construction labor isn't a skilled electrician, so you're elevating your argument for a more reasonable position, and most women are not in HR even tho HR may be dominated by women. I'm not sure why you are harping on HR. The stats clearly show where women dominate, it doesn't appear to be HR.
And, I'm not making any recommendations as to what careers people should approach. I happen to think the skilled trades are a good option, but you brought up construction and that happens to be one of the hardest hit industries in this recession.
Based on the current state of our economy, I would say that law and banking are not good fields to go into either. Is it better to encourgage an aspiring antitrust attorney to become a nurse instead because that's where the jobs are right now?
A skilled electrician will make more than the best Human Resources Specialist 100 times out of 100. Many of those guys are unionized, too, so they really command a good wage. You're assuming that the choices are either (a) go to college or (b) be an unskilled day laborer. There are a lot of men who did not go to college, developed a craft, and do very well for themselves financially. In the long run, these guys are much better off than the HR Specialist who has very little choice in her field other than working for the Man.
Based on the current state of our economy, I would say that law and banking are not good fields to go into either. Is it better to encourgage an aspiring antitrust attorney to become a nurse instead because that's where the jobs are right now?
A skilled electrician will make more than the best Human Resources Specialist 100 times out of 100. Many of those guys are unionized, too, so they really command a good wage. You're assuming that the choices are either (a) go to college or (b) be an unskilled day laborer. There are a lot of men who did not go to college, developed a craft, and do very well for themselves financially. In the long run, these guys are much better off than the HR Specialist who has very little choice in her field other than working for the Man.
Wasn't your original example a construction worker?
So based on the current economy where the unemployment rate for construction workers is approx. 25% while the rate for lawyers is in the (low) single digits, your advice makes no sense.
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People in human resources have transferable skills just like most workers. They don't have to work in human resources.
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