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Interesting. It makes me wonder if guys who are "naturals" are... natural? I mean they weren't good with women when they were born. Everything is learned, especially things like socialization. So even those "naturals" at one point went through a learning phase where they internalized the skills at being attractive to women and it became natural for them. So does that mean any "normally socialized" male can learn how to be successful with women?
Sorry, our basic personalites are with us at birth, and are fixed by age 9. This made front-page news about 6 months ago.
This "learning" is way over-blown. Introverts are born that way, extroverts are born that way, flirts are born, people who don't smile readily are born that way (unless abused later and turned that way).
Some people not readily talented as being social or flirting can improve, but the natural trumps all. You cannot "learn" to be a genuis; you either are in the top 2% of IQ or you're not.
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For a casual date, I'd say the ratio is about 1 out of 10. But for a man with serious possibilities, I think 1 out of 100 is about right.
This is not factoring in online dating and/or meetups where a woman has to do deal with a lot more riff-raff. In real life, most guys won't approach a woman if they don't think they have a chance.
For a man to assume he has a chance is not only arrogant but foolish.
And if you think men don't have to weed out riff-raff online, guess again. That was my deal-killer, all the women I met online were liars, sociopaths.
IRL I have no such problem.
And P.S: to the women who might say I chose wrong online (i.e., reflecting poor judgment), I chose who RESPONDED to me.
As far as my personal experiences go - I'd have to say I agree with you. I don't think I've ever ended up dating a complete stranger that approached me.
Then you're just not adventurous. I met my gf that way.
Yeah, why aren't men satisfied with finding ONE special woman to spend time with? I hear stuff about how they try to play a numbers game. I don't understand that at all.
Quality is so much more important than quantity! There seems to be too many married men after us and others who are completely wrong for us, to sort through before finding someone even halfway suitable.
Because that one special woman won't do out with the guy, so most men settle for someone "lesser" (take that as you will). I can state as a guy that with the exception of my current gf and an ex-wife, the women I really wanted to go out with in my life always said no. I'd put the percentage at about 99% no.
I don't have game. I barely like talking. I like it when other's talk and I listen, better. If I was a man, I would most likely end up with a very chatty woman.
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