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I have big problems dating desirable American women as I appear to be very undesirable to them: an unemployed 32 year old with no college degree, no career, no car, and no property save a condo off the Vegas strip that I picked up at a firesale rate. I also have a condo in bangkok and an X-box.
However, the truth is much different.
I am erudite but lack formal education as i joined the military at 18 and have spent my entire working life in conflict zones and the developing world doing IT work. When I say that i work in Iraq the women just assume I am in the Army and loose interest.
The fact is that I am contractor and have made no less than 200k (with a high of 265k) a year since I was 23. That's not rich, but 200k a year largely tax free with no expenses equates to making three or four times that much. However American women that I meet don't really comprehend what i do unless they are the wives of military members.
I also loose "value" because many women believe that out of sight means out of mind.
I don't own a car because it makes no sense to buy a Benz and have it sit empty in a garage for 345 days per year.
I recently suffered an "accident" at work and have no interest in returning to a conflict zone although I could. I am currently unemployed but have found PT work in Vegas unrelated to my previous career--doing federal background investigations.
As a result of my accident I got a seven figure insurance check and some other wage replacement benefits as well as free medical care for life. I am in great shape and look normal. I am about a 6.5 in pure looks but am very quiet.
I am going to school next fall, possibly an elite school, but as a 30 odd year old freshman it will be hard to explain to women my age as most 30 year old undergrads are women that go to community college without a huge future.
I picked up some nice threads, a nice watch, and will buy a nice ride--Porsche Cayman or CLK Benz--but I will not spend more than 350k on house. I Nevada that's a nice home, but not a stellar pad.
I recently hopped on and even more quickly hopped off some sugardaddy type sites..one of them even invited me to be on their tv show...but that whole genre of dating is slightly beyond what I am comfortable with--I will take a girl out to nice places and spend money on her but will not pay her bills or give her cash.
I may consider an upscale matchmaker but all of the reviews I have read indicate that these are a waste of money.
Any advice on how I can date desirable women and finally start punching at my weight.
Honestly, I have to wonder whom you consider to be a "desirable woman." Most people who bother to [URL="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/a-look-at-us-presence-in-iraq-after-troops-leave/"]read the news[/URL] not only know that there are a lot of contractors in Iraq, but that those contractors make money hand over fist. If anything, when you say you worked for a contractor there, a woman who is even remotely aware of the world around her might very well take a jab at you by mentioning Halliburton, even if she doesn't know the finer points of KBR.
So money aside, is a woman that ignorant about world events "desirable?"
Not that a woman who is going to deem you worthy based on your net worth is desirable, either.
However, quite a few people, male or female, who are aware of what contractors make might very well deem you unnecessarily frugal if you made over $200K a year and don't have a car. No one says you should go out and be conspicuous, like with a Benz, but no car at all seems a bit tight, to the point of being cheap. Or like maybe you snorted all your money.
And not for nothing, but Vegas is not exactly a hotbed of intellectual endeavor. If you want a woman with depth, who is not going to be concerned with how much money you have, you might want to consider living in a place with a greater claim to fame than gambling and prostitution.
this post is a bit silly. if one wants to attract materialistic women one needs the materials to do so. you either play the game or you don't.
i also think that one's geographic location strongly influences what is desirable.
although I don't believe that picky people don't think that who you are does not include what you do, what you have, as success and rewards are often a sign of important personal traits.
Hm. If you want to attract materialistic women, which I think is a bit odd and pathological (not to mention immature), then coming on a forum and asking for advice about why you're not meeting quality people seems a bit silly.
Honestly, I have to wonder whom you consider to be a "desirable woman." Most people who bother to read the news not only know that there are a lot of contractors in Iraq, but that those contractors make money hand over fist. If anything, when you say you worked for a contractor there, a woman who is even remotely aware of the world around her might very well take a jab at you by mentioning Halliburton, even if she doesn't know the finer points of KBR.
So money aside, is a woman that ignorant about world events "desirable?"
Not that a woman who is going to deem you worthy based on your net worth is desirable, either.
However, quite a few people, male or female, who are aware of what contractors make might very well deem you unnecessarily frugal if you made over $200K a year and don't have a car. No one says you should go out and be conspicuous, like with a Benz, but no car at all seems a bit tight, to the point of being cheap. Or like maybe you snorted all your money.
And not for nothing, but Vegas is not exactly a hotbed of intellectual endeavor. If you want a woman with depth, who is not going to be concerned with how much money you have, you might want to consider living in a place with a greater claim to fame than gambling and prostitution.
good post. you read the news which is more than 80% of the Americans that I know.
yes, there military contractors, contract diplomats, economic development experts and commercial lawyers working for deloitte, contract spooks...the whole nine yards. with the kbr guys making 80k a year and the deloitte guys making 1000+ a day.
where you lost me is when you commented on me not having a car..if one works in a war zone for 11 months a year does it make sense to buy a car and drive it for 9 days twice a year at most? if i did that it would only be to....aha.
you are right that vegas is a looks and service city...it is not seattle, palo alto, cambridge, or Raleigh. The thing is that Vegas has such a low cost of living, I have a condo there so I must go back there until next fall, and one can get a very nice house there for very cheap.
i guess it's all a trade off;however, i am not looking for woman with a ton of depth in Vegas. I just want an 8+ to have a pleasant time with while there.
Hm. If you want to attract materialistic women, which I think is a bit odd and pathological (not to mention immature), then coming on a forum and asking for advice about why you're not meeting quality people seems a bit silly.
i never said quality....I said desirable, essentially I want woman with an 8 in looks and hopefully a four or above in mind.
I do not want a materialistic woman. I want a beautiful person to hang out with. As I am not famous, or a UFC guy, I guess I have to work with what I have.
i guess it's all a trade off;however, i am not looking for woman with a ton of depth in Vegas. I just want an 8+ to have a pleasant time with while there.
What are you spending all that money on? Are you saving it? And yeah I dont really understand what you do either. You say you are not in the military but you joined the military at 18. Im confused. I think that confusion and the fact that you are home only 2 weeks a year IS really a deterrent to a relationship. I would be suspect of anyone who says oh i only get to see you 2 weeks a year? I'm in! I think you should find a way to explain what you do to make sense to an average woman, and yes, do something to fill your time while you are not working so you aren't just lazing around.
So let me get this straight: You are not in Vegas often. It's something of a "home base" because you have a condo there, but you are away more often than you are there.
Okay, I see why you might not need a car. And not for nothing, but unless you have someone to start it or drive it regularly, the battery is going to die, anyway. However, if you are in town for a couple of weeks at a time, or even a month or two, on your income, you can rent one.
I see in your other posts that you are basically looking for someone pretty and a good conversationalist, but only to hook up with when you happen to be in town. You don't want a relationship or any strings.
Find yourself a recent divorcee and be her transitional man.
At the risk of getting strung up here, I am going to say I am speaking from experience. After my ex moved out, I wanted to get back out there (it was a civil separation and divorce, and we actually encouraged each other to go ahead and start dating). Yet I didn't want a boyfriend.
I met a terrific man I only saw once or twice a year. He was in the military, based in in a different part of the country, but then got sent all over the globe. He was originally from the area where I lived at the time, however, so when he came home for holidays to visit his parents and family, that's when we saw each other. He was extremely intelligent, good-looking, good conversationalist for dinner and drinks, and fun (wink-wink, nudge-nudge). We'd IM if we happened to be online at the same time (rare, because usually there was a 12-hour time difference), but that's about it for contact in the interim.
That went on for two years until I met my current SO, five years ago. I'm guessing that the fellow in question had women in other ports, and I certainly did not deprive myself of dates and male company. But he was always on the radar. In another place and time, maybe it would have been different.
At any rate, it worked for us until I met my SO (which is something you'd need to accept in a similar situation--the prospect that one day you might ring her up and she might say, "I met someone"), and the fellow finally got married a couple of months ago, himself.
As long as you and the woman are on the same page, I see nothing wrong with something like that. However, you need to approach it like dating, because that is what it is, just that it's casual. You have to like each other, otherwise, yes, as Djuna said, just go out and buy what you need.
i never said quality....I said desirable, essentially I want woman with an 8 in looks and hopefully a four or above in mind.
I do not want a materialistic woman. I want a beautiful person to hang out with. As I am not famous, or a UFC guy, I guess I have to work with what I have.
oh I thought you were looking for a relationship. Yeah, buy one. You're at the capital of buying "an 8+ to spend time with"... done and done.
Hm. If you want to attract materialistic women, which I think is a bit odd and pathological (not to mention immature), then coming on a forum and asking for advice about why you're not meeting quality people seems a bit silly.
i never said quality....I said desirable, essentially I want woman with an 8 in looks and hopefully a four or above in mind.
I do not want a materialistic woman. I want a beautiful person to hang out with. As I am not famous, or a UFC guy, I guess I have to work with what I have.
I am confused...
Above you said, "if one wants to attract materialistic women one needs the materials to do so. you either play the game or you don't."
So which is it??
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if i did that it would only be to....aha.
