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Old 02-22-2012, 07:24 PM
 
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Some women just don't like a man to do those things I guess am I old soul I do those things all the time even for a stranger. I've met one women who thought it was considered sexist.
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:30 PM
 
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Some women just don't like a man to do those things I guess am I old soul I do those things all the time even for a stranger. I've met one women who thought it was considered sexist.
Not sexist. In 2012 "certain" people need to be careful who they are "courting". It can be taken the wrong way and you don't need a "witness" to prove no wrong doing was taking place.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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Some women just don't like a man to do those things I guess am I old soul I do those things all the time even for a stranger. I've met one women who thought it was considered sexist.
Trust me, if a woman told me that.. I can guarantee there will be a million other things I despise her or she would despise me for
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:16 AM
 
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It's really how you and the girl get along. Forget about this lady's opinion. She has her views and let her find what she's looking for. You find what works for you and the women you spend time with.

Don't make it more complicated than it has to be. Be confident in who you are and express that. Don't do what this lady says and pretend to be something you are not.
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:45 AM
 
Location: The Present
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Your co worker is a hater, don't let her tell you how to be a man...keep doing what your doing.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Some women just don't like a man to do those things I guess am I old soul I do those things all the time even for a stranger. I've met one women who thought it was considered sexist.
I don't know about the old soul thing, but--I will hold a door for anyone who looks as though they need 'the hold'.
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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Living on the west coast, I'd say it's too much because it's not appreciated.
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Chivalry - When is it too much?
Depends on the participants. I don't mind opening doors for her but then again I open doors for all sorts of random people. I figure acts such as that are simply nice gestures and nothing more.

[ if she drives, does she open the car door for me?]

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Old 02-24-2012, 07:06 AM
 
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There is having excellent manners and then there is just acting like an effete halfwit. When it becomes showy, it is more the second than the first. And I say that as someone who opens doors, pushes in chairs, helps with coats, and stands when a lady enters a room. It's something you simply do, rather than do with fanfare, like some half-pint Sir Walter Raleigh. If you are announcing it, saying things such as "Allow me, Madam," or "Here, let me hold your coat, you poor helpless creature," then you'll probably get a scowl at best in return.

However, I had a funny encounter a few years ago in New York. I was leaving an office building and paused to hold the door open for two women five feet behind me. One looked really put off and said, "You don't have to open the door for me because I'm a woman." To that I said, "This is true. But common courtesy knows no gender." She looked at me for a second and said, "You know. I've never thought of it that way," and we parted on good terms.
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:10 AM
 
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OK, so I was telling one of my female co-workers about a date I had with this woman I'm interested in. It was our second date, so I was telling her about it and she stops me and asks "did you open the car door for her?" And I go...no? And she responds "well, that is the gentleman thing to do." And I think of myself as a gentleman, I treat women right, I treat them with respect. In the case of this date, I picked her up and dropped her off, I had a rose for her waiting in the passenger seat (since we were seeing each other a few days after Valentine's Day), we had a great dinner and we watched a movie (all of which I paid for by the way, but I'm not trying to throw that out there to pump myself up). We laughed, we had a great time, we made out.

But according to my co-worker, I should have opened the car door or whatever. I think that would have been a bit much? If you treat the lady with respect and as an equal, why do I need to go around and open the door? I personally think it's too much, but that's just me. And I did tell her there are other ways for guys to show their appreciation for someone besides opening a car door. Different women have different standards and the one I'm dating, doesn't seem like the "open my car door, push my chair in after I sit down" type. I just think a big deal is being made out of it, and if she didn't like the way I am treating her she wouldn't have asked me if she wanted to spend the entire weekend, this weekend with her.

Edit: BTW, the co-worker in question is in a relationship of 4 years and is complaining that her boyfriend no longer does these things for her, open the car door, whatever. Welcome to the world of settling, population: you two. He's no longer trying. And I feel like she's using her relationship as an
example. She doesn't like the fact that he doesn't do this anymore yet she's still with him.

"I was a lady when he started dating me and I should still be a lady and treated as such." Whatever. She shuts up real quick about all of this when he gets her jewelry though.
Your co-workers issues aside, a gentleman DOES open car doors and building doors for his lady, especially on a date.

It sounds to me like the woman you went out with was sadly not raised to expect to be treated like a lady
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