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i mean i think that chivalry exists both as a code of morality, and as a set of a manners. however i think those two ideas are discrete; you can have one and not the other. some of the most immoral things i've seen in my life were done with impeccable manners.
Oh, I agree. That's like saying shooting a rifle and engaging in warfare can be and are two separate entities.
But just as I'd never call a .22 plinker "warfare", I would never call old-fashioned manners "chivalry". To me, at least, it has to be the whole enchilada to be awarded the name. It's analogous to Confucianism - a set of narrowly-defined morality and behavior rules, manners being only a small part.
And yes, the Knights Templar were "chivalrous" yet committed numerous atrocities - corruptions unfortunately occur in all human-based systems.
I would say the biggest one, as in what a Knight would do, holds the highest level. It separates the soap opera stars from the Knight. *I'm saying this as I imagine grabbing my Cold Steel Vietnam Special Forces tomahawk. Smashing out the window of car that is on fire and dragging her out* REAL Knight stuff!
That's a sweet tool!
I agree that true Knighthood, if it were to exist in a perfect form today, should exemplify the highest standards of conduct and self-control. That would leave out most of the department-store ninjas and the fake brave.
I agree that true Knighthood, if it were to exist in a perfect form today, should exemplify the highest standards of conduct and self-control. That would leave out most of the department-store ninjas and the fake brave.
I don't adhere to some code or anything, but I feel that if you treat people, especially women, with respect, it shows the respect you have for yourself also.
Yes, I do certain things to my SO that only my SO will enjoy, but I also treat all women, who accept it, the same in many areas.
It's not necessary for a man to open doors for a woman. It still makes me feel awkward, like I don't want someone to think I expect him to open the door, especially if we're both going to walk through it.
On the other hand, I understand that car door opening represents the idea that a man is trying to let you know he's courting you. Guys don't open doors for their female friends when they're going someplace, do they? I'd just as soon open my own door; but it does make me secretly happy when my sweetie and I get dressed up for a date and he does all that courtly stuff. A little change up is nice.
It's not necessary for a man to open doors for a woman. It still makes me feel awkward, like I don't want someone to think I expect him to open the door, especially if we're both going to walk through it.
On the other hand, I understand that car door opening represents the idea that a man is trying to let you know he's courting you. Guys don't open doors for their female friends when they're going someplace, do they? I'd just as soon open my own door; but it does make me secretly happy when my sweetie and I get dressed up for a date and he does all that courtly stuff. A little change up is nice.
Damn...you let out our secrets! Shhhhh LOL
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