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Old 04-30-2012, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Davenport, Iowa
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It's simple ...

If you try and fail, then you know you're a failure.

If you never try, you can believe that you could be a sucess if you tried.
But you don't seem to believe you're going to succeed, so it's just a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:49 PM
 
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Your way of thinking is extremely black and white, as well as being catastrophic. You have to change your thought patterns.

Things to remember:

1. People are all of them, each one, unique human beings with distinct tastes, opinions, experiences and desires. A rejection by one does not--by any stretch of the imagination--predict a rejection by all or even most other people. Stop thinking this way. It is completely illogical.

2. Your social anxiety bears no relationship to whether people like you or don't like you. It is a separate issue. Try not to conflate them.

3. You are an excellent candidate for some intensive cognitive therapy to rid your mind of the doomsday thinking that is dragging you down and making you see the world in a very unrealistic way.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:57 PM
 
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But you don't seem to believe you're going to succeed, so it's just a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Well, yes. But, even though I don't believe I would succeed enough to actually try it, at least I can tell myself that I might be able to succeed if I tried. But if I tried and failed, then I wouldn't be able to tell myself that any more.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:59 PM
 
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Your way of thinking is extremely black and white, as well as being catastrophic. You have to change your thought patterns.

Things to remember:

1. People are all of them, each one, unique human beings with distinct tastes, opinions, experiences and desires. A rejection by one does not--by any stretch of the imagination--predict a rejection by all or even most other people. Stop thinking this way. It is completely illogical.

2. Your social anxiety bears no relationship to whether people like you or don't like you. It is a separate issue. Try not to conflate them.

3. You are an excellent candidate for some intensive cognitive therapy to rid your mind of the doomsday thinking that is dragging you down and making you see the world in a very unrealistic way.
I think I see the world in a very realistic way. It is a fact that I am not a likeable person.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:14 PM
 
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I think I see the world in a very realistic way. It is a fact that I am not a likeable person.
By whose standard?

What makes you think you are unlikeable? Are you a jerk? Do you go around offending people? I doubt that.

You are a shy, sensitive soul. That is not generally a trait that people find unlikable. It is just that sometimes it is harder for them to break through to get to know you, and get you to trust them. You need to give people a chance. Not just women--all of them.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:15 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It's simple ...

If you try and fail, then you know you're a failure.

If you never try, you can believe that you could be a sucess if you tried.
Everyone gets rejected with things in life, Be it a girl/guy, Job etc. The failure is in giving up! You will miss every shot you don't take, And time stands still for no one. Many have read my own posts on this, How I would crumble trying to talk to gals. Over the last few months I have actually been dating, Due to the fact i put the extra effort in going for it. My age partially scared me because at 36 i am still young, But reminded more of how time is flying. It was-And is still not easy but with every success, Every victory you feel better, More hopeful. I am not a "pickup artist" or Charlie Sheen (!) for that matter, Just a good ol' boy who is afraid of rejection as well.Ya got to go for it, Do not remain alone if you chose not to. For me, I am hoping to meet someone to share life with, And believe i am on the right track at least to start.

I know you are an eloquent, Intelligent guy by reading your posts and this alone is attractive to women (Back me up here ladies of C-!D) You just need some fire to put out there.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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It's simple ...

If you try and fail, then you know you're a failure.

If you never try, you can believe that you could be a sucess if you tried.
You can believe what you want, but if you refuse to try, you've already failed. If you're okay with a defeatist attitude, so be it. Just don't complain about being a failure because you've brought it onto yourself, lol.

Anyway, if you really think no woman out there would like you, you're delusional. Either put forth some effort, or accept the fact that you're going to be single forever. Dwelling on it will get you nowhere. I've had a few times where I dwelled on it a little and realized that it's useless to do so. All I'm doing is upsetting myself for no reason.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Do what the secret service did, get you a hooker.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:36 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Do what the secret service did, get you a hooker.
DUDE!!!!
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:03 PM
 
Location: DFW
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OP... let me make you feel worse.

I love women and they love me. I'm extremely positive and fun to be with and could probably have 3 dates a night if I had the money and stamina. (Actually, I have the money.) I have a great sense of humor, love to laugh, treat a woman special, romance her and make love to them as often as possible.

Women love a great guy and that's me. That's why I do ask women out.

Now back to you.... try some of what I just mentioned and maybe then you'll get where you like asking women out.

Women DO NOT like poor pitiful me men. Try something different that actually succeeds and removes the Tattoo of LOSER from your forehead. There are many women out there who would love a decent guy.
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