Ladies, how long would you stay in a relationship without a ring? (marry, men)
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I think it depends on the woman's age. A 35+ year old woman, for example, does NOT have two years to waste on a man who is actively or passive-aggressively resisting the idea of their marrying. If I'm with a guy and we have discovered we are in love and compatible, then a decent guy would make a move after about 12-14 months.
I disagree. I'm 45 was 42 when I met my hubby to be. I was never desperate and neither are friends that are single intheir 40's, we are self-sufficient, unlike some in their 20's, we aren't looking for daddy's for our babies, nor a paycheck.
I was living with my boyfriend for 3 years when I told him I wanted a ring. It wasn't about getting married for me..I literally just wanted a ring. He must not have been offended by my "request" because he proposed with that ring.
Lol thanks for the response, but to clarify...
You wouldn't settle down long term with that man in particular unless you got your ring?
Is that right? Because the ring is important to you
I disagree. I'm 45 was 42 when I met my hubby to be. I was never desperate and neither are friends that are single intheir 40's, we are self-sufficient, unlike some in their 20's, we aren't looking for daddy's for our babies, nor a paycheck.
I resent that! I'm in my 20's, I'm self sufficient, dont want babies, or a paycheck (well besides my own).
Another thing to clairfy,There's a difference between living with a man, for awhile until you get married, and living with a man and NEVER getting married.
There a difference between getting married and WANTING to be married
I honestly don't believe the majority of men(especially today) WANT to get married, or have an urge to get married, especially like most women
Are there guys who want to get married, of course, but I don't think as much as women.
Here's the thing, if u asked most men would you be cool with one of these scenarios
A. Playing the field with different women forever
B. Being with one woman long term, but not officially married
Most guys would take one of those, but they just can't live that lifestyle for a multitude of reasons. So they kindoff settle for marriage
On the other hand, most women don't want to play the field forever(even though they can much easier) or want be just the girlfriend forever, I think that's the difference IMO.
I think the difference between the real-life men I know and the men on these forums is that the ones I know don't see their partners as sexless, money-leeching, future alimony checks.
why can't people get it through their thick heads that marriage is a SYMBOL of commitment to a person. No, nothing is different from living together. No, it doesn't guarantee you'll be together forever. It does however tell the other person that you are COMMITTED to them to such a degree that you are willing to 1.) spend a nice chunk of change on a beautiful piece of jewelry TO SYMBOLIZE THIS, 2.) get up in front of everyone you know and announce it, 3.) do all this knowing full well that if you want out, it will be a big mess.
"it's just a piece of paper" = nonsense!!
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It wasn't about getting married for me..I literally just wanted a ring. 
