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Old 10-16-2012, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Why shouldn't they be socially awkward? Apparently they'll get rejected anyway. Better to not try if this thread is anything to go by.
Ha, i've got 17 years of life experience getting rejected to back that one.
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Old 10-16-2012, 03:30 PM
 
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That was tongue-in-cheek
I was just curious as to your level of self-delusion.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA
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Yes. And it's exacerbated by a few men in the thread telling us we should enjoy it because we'll miss it when it stops. Would be nice if those men didn't tell women how we should feel.
This, exactly. Consider it for a minute.

Girl: No. Stop. This doesn't feel good. I don't like this. You're making me uncomfortable.
Guy: Don't lie to yourself, I know what you're like. This is exactly what you want.

If you don't back off when I say "no" in low-stakes conversation, I know you're not safe to be alone with. If you say you want my body and I don't know anything about you, that's not a compliment, it's a threat.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:33 PM
 
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This, exactly. Consider it for a minute.

Girl: No. Stop. This doesn't feel good. I don't like this. Please, stop. You're making me uncomfortable.
Guy: Don't lie to me. I know what you're like. This is exactly what you want.

If you don't back off when I say "no" in low-stakes conversation, I know you're not safe to be alone with. If you say you want my body and I don't know anything about you, that's not a compliment, it's a threat.
It's just another case of too many guys thinking with their dicks instead of brains.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:46 PM
 
Location: NY metro area
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This, exactly. Consider it for a minute.

Girl: No. Stop. This doesn't feel good. I don't like this. You're making me uncomfortable.
Guy: Don't lie to yourself, I know what you're like. This is exactly what you want.


If you don't back off when I say "no" in low-stakes conversation, I know you're not safe to be alone with. If you say you want my body and I don't know anything about you, that's not a compliment, it's a threat.
Ok, I've encountered my share of pushy men in LI and NYC clubs, but I can't imagine anything going down like the way you just described. How the heck does it get to a point where you're stating "No. Stop. This doesn't feel good" ???

Don't you ladies just walk away? Some "propositions" are no different than any salesman at the local mall just trying to get "a bite". You just smile, say "No thank you" and keep walking or ignore them.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:52 PM
 
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Ok, I've encountered my share of pushy men in LI and NYC clubs, but I can't imagine anything going down like the way you just described. How the heck does it get to a point where you're stating "No. Stop. This doesn't feel good" ???

Don't you ladies just walk away?
Some "propositions" are no different than any salesman at the local mall just trying to get "a bite". You just smile, say "No thank you" and keep walking or ignore them.
Likely when you're alone or there are few people around and he's cornering you such as in an elevator.

More likely it's a bit difficult for some gals to walk away and turn their back to a bigger likely stronger person.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA
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It's just another case of too many guys thinking with their dicks instead of brains.
That may be so. But guys thinking with their dicks represent a real threat to my physical safety, so I can't dismiss it that easily. It's not that I assume every guy is a rapist, but absent evidence to the contrary, I still have to exercise caution that he may be.

It's not like they have HI, I'M A RAPIST tattooed on their face, you know? I have to go on behavioral cues, and someone who doesn't respect my boundaries--or who tells me his sexual fantasy but not his name--is going to set off alarms.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:55 PM
 
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It's just another case of too many guys thinking with their dicks instead of brains.
Bit of an implication that respecting boundaries and words like 'No', 'Stop', and 'Don't' aren't in guys comprehension when their d*cks get hard as if male sexuality is inherently threatening or 'rapey'.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA
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Ok, I've encountered my share of pushy men in LI and NYC clubs, but I can't imagine anything going down like the way you just described. How the heck does it get to a point where you're stating "No. Stop. This doesn't feel good" ???

Don't you ladies just walk away? Some "propositions" are no different than any salesman at the local mall just trying to get "a bite". You just smile, say "No thank you" and keep walking or ignore them.
It was in reference to some of the comments. Sorry I wasn't clear.

Girl: I hate when guys yell sexual comments at me in the street. I feel like a piece of meat, it really makes me uncomfortable.
Guy: You keep telling yourself that. I know you secretly like it, you would hate it if they stopped.

The guys who don't take "no" for an answer are the guys who make girls nervous.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:54 PM
 
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It was in reference to some of the comments. Sorry I wasn't clear.

Girl: I hate when guys yell sexual comments at me in the street. I feel like a piece of meat, it really makes me uncomfortable.
Guy: You keep telling yourself that. I know you secretly like it, you would hate it if they stopped.

The guys who don't take "no" for an answer are the guys who make girls nervous.
They also make women more wary of guys in general.

One time I made a comment to a woman who had an umbrella when it was raining. Got told to **** off.

I never reacted to anyone like that for making small talk.
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