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Old 12-07-2012, 04:53 PM
 
Location: SF CA, USA
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Stop being a cuckold and become a man. Stop being a doormat there for emotional support, but nothing else. Stop sitting there in the white knight role as a shoulder to cry on.

Didn't any males in your life teach you about being a real man? Don't be the gay plutonic friend they have always needed who broods quietly in the corner.
This is an interesting post for me because I'm assuming most American males, at least a few decades or so ago, had pretty good male coaches or role models for dating purposes. Either it was an uncle, a father, a brother or a friend.

I feel like in Asian culture there's no such thing. When one is in their teens the focus is still on education, the father is only a role model in the economic and moral sense. Generally they tell their kids what to do in terms of college and career, but never women, it's always assumed that the women part will come later, that he will find a nice girl of respectable background once his financial future is stable. Of course when the kid gets packed off to college in a Western country, usually the US or the UK...all of his conceptions about dating are blown out of the water.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Central California
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I don't think being friends first is a bad thing. I've had some really good friends that I ended up hooking up with. There's a few rules:

1) Don't bank on it working. Be okay with being just friends.
2) Date other girls.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Gotham
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This is an interesting post for me because I'm assuming most American males, at least a few decades or so ago, had pretty good male coaches or role models for dating purposes. Either it was an uncle, a father, a brother or a friend.

I feel like in Asian culture there's no such thing. When one is in their teens the focus is still on education, the father is only a role model in the economic and moral sense. Generally they tell their kids what to do in terms of college and career, but never women, it's always assumed that the women part will come later, that he will find a nice girl of respectable background once his financial future is stable. Of course when the kid gets packed off to college in a Western country, usually the US or the UK...all of his conceptions about dating are blown out of the water.
I never got any worthwhile advice from my dad in this area. He mostly just said, wait till they come to you. So, I pretty much had to figure this stuff out on my own.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:19 PM
 
Location: SF CA, USA
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I never got any worthwhile advice from my dad in this area. He mostly just said, wait till they come to you. So, I pretty much had to figure this stuff out on my own.
Similar in my case. My mom and dad both came from a different era of dating, so not much of their advice could really help me very much. Especially my dad, being white in SEA, automatically inflates your dating value tenfold. It's prejudiced but that's how it is, he gets treated like royalty even today, so he never really needed to develop any "game."
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:39 PM
 
Location: NC
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My dad gave me some sage advice and told me stories of him getting rejected. He always said that for every one that rejected him, there were two that said yes... so you never know. IT all didn't really click for me until college, before then I was not adept lol
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:46 PM
 
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You can get to know her while stickin it in her butt. I don't see the issue here.
He can but only if she lets him.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Gotham
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Touché
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:56 PM
 
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Stop being a cuckold and become a man. Stop being a doormat there for emotional support, but nothing else. Stop sitting there in the white knight role as a shoulder to cry on.

Didn't any males in your life teach you about being a real man? Don't be the gay plutonic friend they have always needed who broods quietly in the corner.
**** balls, **** masculinity, seriously, why is it that whenever a guy whines, complains, rants, it makes him look weak, pathetic, less of a man, but never the other way around?
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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**** balls, **** masculinity, seriously, why is it that whenever a guy whines, complains, rants, it makes him look weak, pathetic, less of a man, but never the other way around?

Because when women do it, it makes them sound annoying and stupid.
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Central California
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He can but only if she lets him.
Not necessarily.
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